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Post by justdabbling on Oct 18, 2018 16:19:30 GMT
This is a good question. I started in Feb 2016 and have been running down all property loans on any platforms since April 2017. I have 10 loans left, two of which can, in theory still be put on sale. One is still paying interest. I need the loans that cannot be put on sale to pay back 36% of my investment in them in order for me to break even taking into account the interest received.
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Post by rrrupert on Oct 18, 2018 21:20:00 GMT
90% for me. That would roughly halve if I get half the Exeter capital back. I started Mid 2015 and sold my last saleable holdings around April 2018.
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Post by sqh on Oct 19, 2018 2:00:23 GMT
Some scary numbers being quoted, but I wonder what is classed as a distressed loan. For instance, I'm holding DFL024, it's -283days late, but it's repaying slowly and should repay in full with interest and bonuses. I would call it distressed, but then again, maybe not.
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Post by sl75 on Oct 19, 2018 9:17:20 GMT
Some scary numbers being quoted, but I wonder what is classed as a distressed loan. The same point I raised... the suggestion part-way down the thread was to use "cannot be put up for sale" as the dividing line between "distressed" and "not [yet] distressed", but it's unclear what definition some other contributors are using, making it hard to be sure that we're comparing like with like.
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Post by sirkillalot on Oct 19, 2018 9:58:13 GMT
My percentage is 28% ("suspended / defaulted") loan to overall interest - 2 years on the platform. Given the other numbers this looks like a result !
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Post by invester on Oct 19, 2018 10:00:14 GMT
I'm sure a lot of people are.
'Distressed' is not the same thing as 'not likely to pay back 100%'. It just means that the risk profile of the loan has changed adversely from what was originally stated.
If you want to take a different interpretation that is fine, just apply it in the same way to other platforms and see your results. Comparing to other people is not as meaningful as to your own portfolio.
On these measures Lendy is the worst platform for me by a long way. Other platforms such as Funding Secure/Funding Circle/Assetz have even more incompetent defaults, but on these platforms the amount of deals there has balanced it out. I am fairly certain this will be the case for the rest of you with 200%+ ratios.
That seems to me to be the biggest problem with Lendy. Around a year ago, some of the very big projects they have done have started to go sour and there has been very little to balance it out. The people with foresight sold ahead of the curve, but a large amount of people were stuck.
We all would have been in a better position had there been numerous smaller projects to balance out the bad ones.
I can't see why the origination has been so poor over the last year. By all accounts Funding Secure have many times less the resources of Lendy but they are pushing out loans. Assetz and Kuflink also have plenty of business.
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Post by p2p2p on Oct 19, 2018 10:50:03 GMT
I presume the lack of new borrowers was because of pressure from the big DFL developers correctly worried that tranche N wouldn't get funded. Lendy miss-understood their customer base. If they saw 200% over-demand for tranche 1, they assumed that tranches 2-10 would be easily funded, while in practice only tranche 2 would be, and the rest would struggle and it would need a huge growth in customer base to keep pace. Funding Secure have kept to smaller projects with fewer tranches, and for the bigger ones like student accommodation blocks had the canny idea of splitting the loan into individual rooms, so demand could better assessed.
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Post by neal on Oct 19, 2018 12:19:33 GMT
As 70% of my loan 'value' is IA and the other 30% has too long a queue to attempt to sell I'd say 100% of my capital is distressed. I'll be lucky if I draw £100 in interest this month, that's about 2.5%
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Post by ganymede on Oct 19, 2018 12:34:48 GMT
Mines very easy £0 loans in distress with Lendy, interest over 12%. I started getting out of Lendy in Jan 2017, finished the process in Sept 2017. Have been watching for improvements but never been tempted back, thing are still going in the wrong direction. The only growth I see at Lendy is in the defaults.
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Post by ozboy on Oct 19, 2018 13:38:02 GMT
Snap! ganymede, you are right on the money.
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Post by moist on Oct 19, 2018 15:12:17 GMT
Just a bit in London loan, 100% loss on that would drop me to 10.5% over last 3 years....
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Post by fiatlender on Oct 19, 2018 15:58:31 GMT
Mine is similar to ganymede.
Started in 2015, only ever invested in 12% loans, have been running down my loans since early 2017 with my final loan cashed out 3 weeks ago, never had any loans in distress.
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Post by jlend on Oct 19, 2018 16:31:44 GMT
Mine is similar to ganymede.
Started in 2015, only ever invested in 12% loans, have been running down my loans since early 2017 with my final loan cashed out 3 weeks ago, never had any loans in distress. There does seem to be a trend... Just FYI was in Funding Secure from 2013 to 2015. Not lent with them since then. Zero defaults. Perhaps we should be staying with platforms for a couple of years then getting out 😉
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Post by poppyland on Oct 20, 2018 9:30:46 GMT
My outstanding loans / all interest and bonuses received is 93%, so I'm won't be making an overall loss on Lendy. I feel sorry for the people here who ended up with 200 or 300% ratios. However, as others here have said, there's Collateral too, and when you bring them into the picture, it looks rather worrying. I'm still not sure that I'm going to have made any profit at all from P2P after 2.5 years investing.
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Post by invester on Oct 20, 2018 10:14:41 GMT
The whole loan book is at £44.2m lifetime interest vs £71.5m non-performing.
Is it fair to say that due if there are people with 0% defaults, there must be people out there with much bigger amounts? Anyone who came to the party late for instance would have a tough time of staying out of all the suspended loans and have a less favourable interest payment regime. In the earlier years every loan was paying 12% no matter what because Lendy were servicing the loans under the old agreement.
Aggregated up surely all our interest and non-performing totals would equal the entire loan book.
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