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Post by aju on Oct 20, 2018 11:05:26 GMT
I'm not sure if this is relevant anymore but I noticed today that the rate promise screen secure2.zopa.com/rate_promise
is no longer available on the statements screen (you have to be logged into your account for the link to work).
This will only affect people who were lending just before classic started and during early days of classic.
One thing I cannot seem to find is how zopa treats a rate promise loan that is still running. At the time a rate promise run would actually check the loans during the period and if the average of their lending rates were under the rate promise then Zopa would automatically pay up the extra at the time.
I'm curious though as now they have pulled the info from the statements screen it is still available - i've printed mine now - but I thought ok lets see what I actually got relative to the promise. So the first one I checked was during the non SG era and whilst most have closed - some were classic - there is one pre-safeguarded loan that is in default.
I haven't finished analysing this yet but I suspect that this default may have a bearing on the overall rate the rate promise actually will achieve. I've just sent an email to Zopa to see what they say about the loss of this screen and when they engage I will query this item but I wondered if anyone else had an clues.
The "Rate Promise" FAQ does not seem help much.
help.zopa.com/customer/portal/articles/1431525-rate-promise
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Post by aju on Oct 20, 2018 11:18:56 GMT
It gets a bit more curious in that if you click on the rate promise faq link above then you will see a return link of >>extras , clicking this says it goes to help.zopa.com/customer/en/portal/topics/544731-extras/articlesbut then something really curious comes up for a company called SalesForce Desk! as shown below nothing I think to do with Zopa although the code is in zopa system ... either I'm going nuts! or Zopa is getting remarkably sloppy ;-) The thing is if they are this bad on the front end simple stuff what about the backend financials are they screwing this up again as they did earlier in the year?. Attachments:
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Post by aju on Oct 20, 2018 13:44:51 GMT
Isn't SalesForce just a product being used to managed the FAQs? Zopa then styles/serves the data as it likes.
Possible but I wouldn't expect that to be revealed, and worse as customer i wouldn't expect to see that but I guess anything is possible these days. I thought salesforce was a CRM proposition but then looking them up on google I see they are a cloud service manager as well so perhaps its from that side and zopa are using their services as you say.
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Post by aju on Oct 26, 2018 10:51:39 GMT
Sadly Zopa has now removed the link to Rate Promise FAQ info. I sent them an email about one of my rate promise loans going to default and queried whether rate promise screens should not be have been pulled. The Faq link works but there is not info under it. It disappeared after I had made contact with Zopa!. Weirdly it just say "This article doesn't have a translation for English" so I suppose this is the spanish team making this change perhaps who knows. The personal rate promise lent info link still works when logged in. At present I only have one loan that has been defaulted and initial analysis of this loss on the given loans does not indicate a loss relative to the promise as such. However i've been trying to find the original Rate Promise rules and have so far been unsuccessful. At the moment Zopa is pushing back suggesting that I have already been compensated for the rate promise at the time the loans were part of any given rate promise. My argument that if a loan or loans default this may result in the original promise becoming unfulfilled. Anyone else got this info or any thoughts on my angle. I'm as much open to being incorrect as perhaps onto something here.
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Post by jeremy12 on Oct 26, 2018 14:55:00 GMT
I need to look into my old loans and see if I can get clarity on this.
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Post by aju on Oct 26, 2018 15:28:51 GMT
I need to look into my old loans and see if I can get clarity on this. It's quite complicated if I'm honest, I'm not sure I am on the right track. Zopa seems to be saying that the RP is just an initial rate promise for loans made during a given period. Any that seem to have an underperforming rate then get additional up front return amounts so in my case apparently I had quite a bit that was under the rate and as a result Zopa says I received additional payments relative to the promised rates of £130+. for me though that would just bring me up to the promised rates at the time. The thing is I can't anywhere in the RP stuff I clawed out before they removed the relevant FAQ on it. There is a blog item on RP but that is really only justifying the withdrawal of RP for various reasons. Site searching Zopa I find that the full terms and conditions were here but sadly that page has been removed and the google cache is empty on it too. I have requested that Zopa supply me with the full terms and conditions but up to now they are they seem to be skirting the issue a little, I feel.
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