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Post by Proptechfish on Oct 29, 2018 18:10:18 GMT
Don't want to set any hares running but I've been unable to get the LY website up for the last half hour - constant server timeouts. I can still get in....
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Post by mikeh on Oct 29, 2018 18:15:38 GMT
No problems here.
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Post by invester on Oct 29, 2018 18:23:26 GMT
I do wonder if the new Copious Capital company set up could be behind this somehow?
Obviously I couldn't see them building up a warchest any other way by partnering with other organisations or perhaps using the PF to get a RCF with Metro Bank..... but they then could buy out loan holders at low rates - ie 50% and only for certain loans.
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Post by sussexlender on Oct 29, 2018 19:43:19 GMT
Posts by "cazzy" still on the thread "Lendy seeks FCA help".
Some open to conspiracy theories might think that the recent appointments were made to good mates of Lendy so they can get a redundancy pay off?
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Post by dan1 on Oct 29, 2018 19:49:00 GMT
Not again!
I was on holiday Feb / Mach time in New Zealand. One minute I'm watching a geyser erupt in Rotorua, the next minute I log on to the forum and Collateral have gone pop. Now I'm on my way to Bali and this happens. It's enough to put you off your lobster thermidor.
For those that need any advance notification of the next platform to hit the buffers, I'm off to the Caribbean in February.
PS - don't forget nobody has ever lost money with Lendy First world problems, eh?
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Post by Lendy Support on Oct 29, 2018 19:57:28 GMT
The article on FT.com entitled: “UK P2P lender looks into selling the loans on its platform”, subheadlined “Lendy in talks over deal that would involve selling loanbook at discount to face value” – is incorrect.
Lendy has had exploratory discussions that might allow lenders in a small number of loans to exit those loans. Any exit by lenders in those loans would, of course, be entirely voluntary. That is very different from the message of the article.
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Post by snowmobile on Oct 29, 2018 20:28:59 GMT
The comment I recall was towards the end of one of the deleted posts about the court case.
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Post by TitoPuente on Oct 29, 2018 20:52:24 GMT
This has all been taken out of proportion and the FT has totally turned yellow on this (and other) subjects lately. Respectable journalists are harder to find these days and clicks are king.
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Post by michaelc on Oct 29, 2018 22:09:02 GMT
This has all been taken out of proportion and the FT has totally turned yellow on this (and other) subjects lately. Respectable journalists are harder to find these days and clicks are king. I agree. My late grandmother was a communist (hear me out!). Forty years ago, she always used to tell me that the only newspapers that told the truth were the Morning Star and the FT. I'm sure most would disagree about the former (even though they possibly haven't read it). Until relatively recently I would have broadly agreed with her about the FT. Sadly, since Brexit, that paper has in my view taken a very short term view and has become quite opinionated on the subject. It is a shame.
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Post by df on Oct 29, 2018 22:11:12 GMT
Why not just allow discounting on the SM? Three reasons come to mind: !. Under current T&C Lendy can't allow SM trade for overdue loans. 2. It is very unlikely that discounting scheme will shift SM very far, could do a year ago, but not now. 3. Selling failed loans to distressed debt investors will end Lendy's struggle with these loans. These loans are thirsty (admin time and other costs). I very welcome the move.
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Post by invester on Oct 29, 2018 22:43:30 GMT
It would surely depend on what type of haircut. If the loans are going to be classified like bad debts and sold on for 10p in the pound I would rather make Lendy fulfil their duties and enforce the security.
Most things Lendy have done have not been for the benefit of investors, so when they come along and claim that investors can choose an exit it'll be obvious that the only circumstances this will be in where the investor is getting the raw end of the deal.
The sad thing is I can see there being enough investors who have over-committed and want some money back at any cost to be desperate enough to take the crappiest of offers up. It'll be like a thief but presented as a white knight, because Lendy can control sentiment and information flow on the loans.
If there is to be a 'rescue' of this sort I would want to be entirely sure that the setup is such that Lendy cannot abuse its position, but I think they are compromised because of the Wealth product.
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Post by sj on Oct 29, 2018 22:54:34 GMT
The article on FT.com entitled: “UK P2P lender looks into selling the loans on its platform”, subheadlined “Lendy in talks over deal that would involve selling loanbook at discount to face value” – is incorrect. Lendy has had exploratory discussions that might allow lenders in a small number of loans to exit those loans. Any exit by lenders in those loans would, of course, be entirely voluntary. That is very different from the message of the article. I'll believe it when I see it thanks....
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Post by wuzimu on Oct 29, 2018 23:11:51 GMT
If the loans are going to be classified like bad debts and sold on for 10p in the pound I would rather make Lendy fulfil their duties and enforce the security. Its exactly because Lendy has not routinely and robustly enforced the security through open market disposal then pursued borrowers and any professional negligence claims, that the loan book is in such a pickle. I want to see this done for every overdue loan.
That is how lenders get transparency and how we know Lendy have discharged their fiduciary duty as trustees.
The loan book needs wrapping up in the most beneficial way to lenders, that is Lendy's legal and regulatory obligation. I don't trust Lendy to have that in mind though.
Lenders need a voice and representation in what is to come.
Ideally if there was a Lendy Victims Group that had a simple united message, FCA might be prepared to hear it and hold the platform to account as things are wound up.
I've seen it before.
There will be a much better outcome for lenders if our voice is heard in regulatory circles before the fat lady sings.
After a stitch up has been done, FCA will not be interested.
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Post by jeremy12 on Oct 29, 2018 23:23:16 GMT
If the loans are going to be classified like bad debts and sold on for 10p in the pound I would rather make Lendy fulfil their duties and enforce the security. Its exactly because Lendy has not routinely and robustly enforced the security through open market disposal then pursued borrowers and any professional negligence claims, that the loan book is in such a pickle. I want to see this done for every overdue loan.
That is how lenders get transparency and how we know Lendy have discharged their fiduciary duty as trustees.
The loan book needs wrapping up in the most beneficial way to lenders, that is Lendy's legal and regulatory obligation. I don't trust Lendy to have that in mind though.
Lenders need a voice and representation in what is to come.
Ideally if there was a Lendy Victims Group that had a simple united message, FCA might be prepared to hear it and hold the platform to account as things are wound up.
I've seen it before.
There will be a much better outcome for lenders if our voice is heard in regulatory circles before the fat lady sings.
After a stitch up has been done, FCA will not be interested. Sounds a good idea
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Post by Godanubis on Oct 30, 2018 0:38:45 GMT
Not again!
I was on holiday Feb / Mach time in New Zealand. One minute I'm watching a geyser erupt in Rotorua, the next minute I log on to the forum and Collateral have gone pop. Now I'm on my way to Bali and this happens. It's enough to put you off your lobster thermidor.
For those that need any advance notification of the next platform to hit the buffers, I'm off to the Caribbean in February.
PS - don't forget nobody has ever lost money with Lendy First world problems, eh? Which investments are paying for the hols ?
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