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Post by Jeepers on Nov 27, 2018 21:49:28 GMT
I guess your viewpoint depends on whether you have any performing loans left.
All of my loans are in default, some are already with the administrators and some are over 500 days overdue and the administrators still haven't been called in.
I'd rather take a hit on the administrators costs and recover the loans than just sit around for another 500 days.
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Mucho P2P
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Post by Mucho P2P on Nov 27, 2018 22:37:28 GMT
I guess your viewpoint depends on whether you have any performing loans left. All of my loans are in default, some are already with the administrators and some are over 500 days overdue and the administrators still haven't been called in. I'd rather take a hit on the administrators costs and recover the loans than just sit around for another 500 days. Administrators handling one or several independently defaulted loans on Lendy behalf is one thing, Administrators trying to wind up all of Lendy business and all Lendys loans is completely another kettle of fish. I too have a sizeable amount of loans in administration (82k if you are wondering what is sizeable) and I speak having had experience of platform default in the forex business and what is returned to clients once the Administrators are called in is negligible. Take a look at what is happening at Collateral, does that look like the lenders are benefitting? Unfortunately, it doesn't to me [yet].
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Post by charliebrown on Nov 27, 2018 22:57:26 GMT
I guess your viewpoint depends on whether you have any performing loans left. All of my loans are in default, some are already with the administrators and some are over 500 days overdue and the administrators still haven't been called in. I'd rather take a hit on the administrators costs and recover the loans than just sit around for another 500 days. Administrators handling one or several independently defaulted loans on Lendy behalf is one thing, Administrators trying to wind up all of Lendy business and all Lendys loans is completely another kettle of fish. I too have a sizeable amount of loans in administration (82k if you are wondering what is sizeable) and I speak having had experience of platform default in the forex business and what is returned to clients once the Administrators are called in is negligible. Take a look at what is happening at Collateral, does that look like the lenders are benefitting? Unfortunately, it doesn't to me [yet]. I agree with this. Take a look at how BDO are handling the COL wind up, 6 months in and they’ve racked up hundreds of thousands of pounds in fees and have basically recovered nothing. Whilst I am VERY unhappy with LY, I think shutting them down would give us an even worse outcome. My fear is LY seem to actually be shutting themselves down.
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Post by zccax77 on Nov 27, 2018 23:11:37 GMT
Administrators handling one or several independently defaulted loans on Lendy behalf is one thing, Administrators trying to wind up all of Lendy business and all Lendys loans is completely another kettle of fish. I too have a sizeable amount of loans in administration (82k if you are wondering what is sizeable) and I speak having had experience of platform default in the forex business and what is returned to clients once the Administrators are called in is negligible. Take a look at what is happening at Collateral, does that look like the lenders are benefitting? Unfortunately, it doesn't to me [yet]. I agree with this. Take a look at how BDO are handling the COL wind up, 6 months in and they’ve racked up hundreds of thousands of pounds in fees and have basically recovered nothing. Whilst I am VERY unhappy with LY, I think shutting them down would give us an even worse outcome. My fear is LY seem to actually be shutting themselves down. Lendy going into run-off is no bad thing, will help them conserve cash and delay getting administrators in.
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Post by loftankerman on Nov 28, 2018 0:20:27 GMT
I agree with this. Take a look at how BDO are handling the COL wind up, 6 months in and they’ve racked up hundreds of thousands of pounds in fees and have basically recovered nothing. Whilst I am VERY unhappy with LY, I think shutting them down would give us an even worse outcome. My fear is LY seem to actually be shutting themselves down. Lendy going into run-off is no bad thing, will help them conserve cash and delay getting administrators in. Yeah, I agree. It looks to me as though they are trying to kick off a new more moderate image and wind down the old one by attempting to meet their obligations and recover what they can. Someone suggested a while ago that they might be trying to evolve a good bank and bad bank approach. In some respects it might be a bit optimistic as I don't see much enthusiasm for more money getting chucked in to keep the old bank image afloat. Nonetheless, I'm sitting back waiting. Lobbing grenades at them won't really improve matters any more than fuming will.
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Godanubis
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Post by Godanubis on Nov 28, 2018 1:27:32 GMT
Loans all slowly moving into IA £1000 left out of £20000 in IOA . Why don’t they set up lenders committee to reflect wishes of lenders rather than current “We know best” and you have to live with what we decide.
Pro rata voting on all loans loans greater than 200 days late as to solutions ie. default , take over and appoint builders to complete builds and sell as completed development rather than distressed sale.
I,d rather have 50% now rather than 40% or less 500 days down the line. I could recoup the 50% in that time
Too late to change direction on new loans nobody is getting paid anything to be able to invest.
An an easy change is to allow loan parts to be offered at whatever discount someone feels they can stomach and those with lesser need of return over a reasonable period with faith of repayment can grab a bargain.
The 800 day loans would have interest that would allow it to be sold at 26% discount for no loss of capital not counting any bonus.
JUST DO SOMETHING
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Post by Mr_N on Nov 28, 2018 3:07:08 GMT
sure they will get the wheels turning, very slowly and charge you through the nose for the pleasure All that will happen is that the Administrators will take over full and complete control of all funds and operations, then they will get their bean counters to charge YOU for everything they can possibly think up, from travel at 45p per mile, to overnight accomodation, to their salaries for so many "professionals" that they are and will also need to supposedly hire to unravel the complexities of the loans and to interact with the other individual loan administrators and Courts. I have seen it so many times before. Once the administrators and/or lawyers get involved, you might as well kiss goodbye not only to most of your capital but also to any hope of getting a decent portion of it back.Most of us already have..
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Post by Mr_N on Nov 28, 2018 3:09:41 GMT
I guess your viewpoint depends on whether you have any performing loans left. All of my loans are in default, some are already with the administrators and some are over 500 days overdue and the administrators still haven't been called in. I'd rather take a hit on the administrators costs and recover the loans than just sit around for another 500 days. Exactly, and if the lendy ship has already starting to sink we are probably going down that route ultimately anyway. Sitting around doing nothing just increases the timescales while lendy continue to pay themselves salaries from our investments.
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Post by loftankerman on Nov 28, 2018 8:52:08 GMT
Loans all slowly moving into IA £1000 left out of £20000 in IOA . Why don’t they set up lenders committee to reflect wishes of lenders rather than current “We know best” and you have to live with what we decide. Oh yeah, sure! I'd really like Lendy's managerial decisions affecting all lenders to be influenced by a self declared representative handful of hand wringing forumites who just want some of their money back. Whether Lendy know the best or not, they run the show. The T&C always said that. As this thread progresses (?) I'm becoming more supportive of Lendy, not that they'll ever see a new penny of mine. Everybody on board signed on this ship. Nobody was Shanghai'd.
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Post by Monetus on Nov 28, 2018 9:09:53 GMT
I guess your viewpoint depends on whether you have any performing loans left. All of my loans are in default, some are already with the administrators and some are over 500 days overdue and the administrators still haven't been called in. I'd rather take a hit on the administrators costs and recover the loans than just sit around for another 500 days. All of my loans are in default and earning zero interest - I still have no desire for Administrators to be called in. I'm really not confident that we'd achieve a better result given the quality of some of the assets.
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Post by brightspark on Nov 28, 2018 10:00:25 GMT
it is a pity this forum is confined to lenders. It would be interesting to get borrowers takes on Lendy's efforts.
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Post by Godanubis on Nov 28, 2018 10:14:17 GMT
it is a pity this forum is confined to lenders. It would be interesting to get borrowers takes on Lendy's efforts. If borrowers keep to their side of the deal everybody would be happpy .
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Post by Godanubis on Nov 28, 2018 10:20:08 GMT
Loans all slowly moving into IA £1000 left out of £20000 in IOA . Why don’t they set up lenders committee to reflect wishes of lenders rather than current “We know best” and you have to live with what we decide. Oh yeah, sure! I'd really like Lendy's managerial decisions affecting all lenders to be influenced by a self declared representative handful of hand wringing forumites who just want some of their money back. Whether Lendy know the best or not, they run the show. The T&C always said that. As this thread progresses (?) I'm becoming more supportive of Lendy, not that they'll ever see a new penny of mine. Everybody on board signed on this ship. Nobody was Shanghai'd. T&c say loans are for a specific timeframe and then recovery action can be taken. If it said as is the case give us your money and we will give you 9-12% back then nothing. i don’t think you would get any takers. All we ask is that they recover or default and allow lenders to “Write off” the long term underperforming loans. There is NO reason not to allow loans to be sold at discount. This would fix the problem for a lot of investors. Actual repayments are nearly non existent.
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Post by Godanubis on Nov 28, 2018 10:41:01 GMT
Loans all slowly moving into IA £1000 left out of £20000 in IOA . Why don’t they set up lenders committee to reflect wishes of lenders rather than current “We know best” and you have to live with what we decide. Oh yeah, sure! I'd really like Lendy's managerial decisions affecting all lenders to be influenced by a self declared representative handful of hand wringing forumites who just want some of their money back. Whether Lendy know the best or not, they run the show. The T&C always said that. As this thread progresses (?) I'm becoming more supportive of Lendy, not that they'll ever see a new penny of mine. Everybody on board signed on this ship. Nobody was Shanghai'd. Your understanding of lender representatives is obviously lacking. The representatives on the collateral committee consists of highly educated professionals from IT, financial, building and legal backgrounds and I would wager have more years of relavent experience than current Lendy employees who I am sure are working hard but are perhaps sinking under the strain. It is ALWAYS better to ask assistance from those with experience rather than plod on. Perhaps committee members with building experience could offer advice to borrowers that would benefit all. The members would be chosen by pro rata voting of those who actually have invested their hard earned cash. There is no downside to this. The best performing companies are those with representatives of customers and employees. They may not manage to get any better returns but at least we should know we had had the best chance.
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Post by loftankerman on Nov 28, 2018 11:11:32 GMT
Am I the only one thinking this thread seems to be evolving P2P into the realms of fantasy football?
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