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Post by mrclondon on Feb 10, 2019 18:10:50 GMT
Seven loans across 19 tranches totalling £6.577m plus well over £1m in accrued interest and fees, all to entities controlled by one person, all now defaulted.
Partial recovery of £1.81m (D*ll phases 1 & 2) leaving £5.4m capital outstanding.
Loan | Ids | Maturity | £ (Ranking) | £ (Ranking) REPAID
| Thread | Tower block refurb, Ch.H. New Brighton, Wirral | 2938283517 2637081380 4082868284 3247366922 1166384406 1483336004 8396173082 3265526729 4202861543 2444968958 8847655338 | 20/05/2018 22/05/2018 23/05/2018 21/06/2018 26/09/2018 26/09/2018 26/09/2018 18/10/2018 27/04/2018 11/05/2018 28/09/2018 | £575k (1st) £156k (2nd) £200k (2nd) £239k (2nd) £210k (2nd) £220k (2nd) £100k (2nd) £150k (2nd) £225k (2nd) £370k (3rd) £140k (4th) |
| Link | Property Loan - H*** Road - Birkenhead | 2175354900 | 15/11/2018 | £488k (1st) |
| Link | The D*ll, Birkenhead (Phase 1) Partial Recovery
| 2688914082 2394916915 | 27/04/2018 21/06/2018 | £154.4k (1st) £115k (2nd) | £420.6k (1st) Recovered -
| Link | The D*ll, Birkenhead (Phase 2) Partial Recovery
| 3125566771 7034393458 | 27/04/2018 21/06/2018 | £279.3k (1st) £250k (2nd) | £760.7k (1st) Recovered -
| ^^ | Development in The Wirral (A***** St) | 2452378963 | 31/03/2018 | £900k (1st) |
| Link | Llandudno Hotel | 3171765915 | 08/02/2018 | £450k (1st) |
| Link | G******* Street Flat, Llandudno | 3083003938 | 26/09/2018 | £175k (1st) |
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Plus 3 REPAID ( Birkenhead Property (5 bed detached house), Industrial Unit in Wallasey, L****** Drive Llandudno) E&OE Other threads in this series:
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Post by mrclondon on Feb 10, 2019 18:11:36 GMT
Suffering from deja-vu ? Well, yes, you did indeed see a similar index (link fixed) a couple a weeks ago to a different set of 7 loans totalling c. £6m to a single borrower. After seeing a number of posts picking up on the £6m figure I started to wonder how much another notorious borrower owed us. I'm beginning to wonder if a pattern is emerging across all p2p platforms, such that when a borrower has more than say three concurrent p2p loans the end point is likely to be undesirable. Why three ? Well its probably reasonable to have loans against a "current" project, a "next" project and perhaps the family's residential property, or a completed revenue generating project. Whenever I consider this borrower's loans I can't help thinking back to the early discussions on the Llandudno Hotel, with profunder (who hasn't logged onto the forum in the last 2 years) giving it a thumbs up and saying ( here and previous few posts) that he was putting £100k into it despite scepticism from myself and others. I often wonder how long he actually held that loan for.
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Post by coop on Feb 10, 2019 18:52:24 GMT
Wow they defaulted these!
Was this recently?
If this shows up in the soon to be released stats it's going to make an impact.
Also seems a bit risky of FS to have over 12% of their active loan book to 2 property developers! Have I done my sums right there? Crikey!
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Post by michaelc on Feb 10, 2019 19:37:52 GMT
Suffering from deja-vu ? Well, yes, you did indeed see a similar index a couple a weeks ago to a different set of 7 loans totalling c. £6m to a single borrower. After seeing a number of posts picking up on the £6m figure I started to wonder how much another notorious borrower owed us. I'm beginning to wonder if a pattern is emerging across all p2p platforms, such that when a borrower has more than say three concurrent p2p loans the end point is likely to be undesirable. Why three ? Well its probably reasonable to have loans against a "current" project, a "next" project and perhaps the family's residential property, or a completed revenue generating project. Whenever I consider this borrower's loans I can't help thinking back to the early discussions on the Llandudno Hotel, with profunder (who hasn't logged onto the forum in the last 2 years) giving it a thumbs up and saying ( here) that he was putting £100k into it despite scepticism from myself and others. I often wonder how long he actually held that loan for. Very interesting. I can't say I was specifically influenced by that user but certainly around that time I used to give too much thought to what users were saying without questioning their motives. I was under the incorrect assumption that the forum was filled with mostly friendly chaps who were sharing what they knew. Many are just that of course but there remains an element who are posting for other reasons so my advice is to be careful who you listen to! (MrCLondon and the other mods are a good start IMO). I did invest in the Hotel but thankfully only a relatively small amount and it doesn't seem to be the worst loan I've ever invested in even though it has defaulted. Time will tell.
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Post by cwah on Feb 10, 2019 22:18:20 GMT
I did invest as well on the hotel! But only small amount so its ok.
Is profunder someone who wanted us to put ££ in?
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Post by adrian77 on Feb 11, 2019 14:14:00 GMT
some of these worry me - not least the tower block - hopefully FS are going to invite this chap in for a chat and give him the Alex Ferguson hair-dryer treatment!
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Post by r1200gs on Feb 11, 2019 15:17:52 GMT
some of these worry me - not least the tower block - hopefully FS are going to invite this chap in for a chat and give him the Alex Ferguson hair-dryer treatment! I am hoping, nay, praying that even FS cannot foul up a 15 percent LTV first charge on that tower block. For those lower down the pecking order, good luck.
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Post by hammertime on Feb 11, 2019 15:31:20 GMT
How are things at F/S at the moment.
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Post by SteveT on Feb 11, 2019 15:46:14 GMT
How are things at F/S at the moment. The massed ranks of FS zombie loans grow by the week, and still none of them are being resolved. FS continue to demonstrate expertise in mindlessly shovelling money out of the door, and shambolic incompetence in getting it back again.
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Post by hammertime on Feb 11, 2019 16:22:00 GMT
Not great then.
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Post by adrian77 on Feb 11, 2019 16:24:47 GMT
I think you will be OK- just! I too am in this one - I did not realise but the first charge and the second charge etc were all for 13% I have the second charge and not very confident. As for the other charges I hate to think!
I think the below is very misleading from C****** H**** - Development - Supplemental Loan (8847655338)
so when is a first charge a fourth charge!
Answers on a digital postcard...I thank you
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