cwah
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Post by cwah on Jun 7, 2019 9:31:36 GMT
Because if they can pick up the phone and charge more time at £400/h why wouldn't they? What benefit would they get in setting up communication on the platform? Where’s the £400 per hour coming from ..they are using a third party..doubt its anywhere near that It's just inference from the communication cost taken from Collateral report. I haven't seen any third party cost related to that. I posted something earlier relates to that.
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Post by iRobot on Jun 7, 2019 9:47:26 GMT
I believe that number is not gonna be useful for me if I can't even reach the RS* staff, and if lenders end up paying for the cost, I will not be happy. I hope RS* can do better than BD* in terms of communication. Since the platform is still operative, why not just use the platform to give lenders regular updates? Because if they can pick up the phone and charge more time at £400/h why wouldn't they? What benefit would they get in setting up communication on the platform? This: because they have a duty to provide 'best value' solutions to all stakeholders. Implementing a process which leveraged a charge of £400/hr where a solution costing a fraction of that is available would open that organisation up to censure from stakeholders (via the courts) and their regulatory bodies. This: The utilisation of an existing facility (low-cost) which can be accessed by a large percentage of stakeholders (at a low cost) and can be updated in near real time. As communication methods go, the platform has very high bandwidth (lots of ears/eyes) with very low latency (compared to snail mail or even email, which can be problematic) and comes at a very low cost. In using the platform for general comms, RSM are demonstrating their adherence to their duty as outlined in the previous point.
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Post by rocky1 on Jun 7, 2019 9:51:46 GMT
RSM will be using lendy site for updates and comms with lenders.todays updates hopefully will be the start of the process.and iwould say RSM will have approved these latest updates.hopefully.
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Post by sl75 on Jun 7, 2019 9:53:40 GMT
Because if they can pick up the phone and charge more time at £400/h why wouldn't they? What benefit would they get in setting up communication on the platform? This: because they have a duty to provide 'best value' solutions to all stakeholders. Implementing a process which leveraged a charge of £400/hr where a solution costing a fraction of that is available would open that organisation up to censure from stakeholders (via the courts) and their regulatory bodies. This: The utilisation of an existing facility (low-cost) which can be accessed by a large percentage of stakeholders (at a low cost) and can be updated in near real time. As communication methods go, the platform has very high bandwidth (lots of ears/eyes) with very low latency (compared to snail mail or even email, which can be problematic) and comes at a very low cost. In using the platform for general comms, RSM are demonstrating their adherence to their duty as outlined in the previous point. Said much better than I was going to...
Undoubtedly there are calls which are important enough and with significant enough consequences that the £400/hr staff have to handle them personally, but those AREN'T the ones to re-assure individual investors that "something is happening".
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Post by adrianc on Jun 7, 2019 11:13:55 GMT
This: The utilisation of an existing facility (low-cost) which can be accessed by a large percentage of stakeholders (at a low cost) and can be updated in near real time. As communication methods go, the platform has very high bandwidth (lots of ears/eyes) with very low latency (compared to snail mail or even email, which can be problematic) and comes at a very low cost. In using the platform for general comms, RSM are demonstrating their adherence to their duty as outlined in the previous point. <nods> It is/was an internet-only platform. By definition, all customers are relatively sophisticated internet users. Using anything but primarily-internet for comms would be utterly ridiculous.
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Post by TenKay on Jun 7, 2019 17:00:57 GMT
update email received
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Post by highlandtiger on Jun 8, 2019 6:43:26 GMT
Well I've come late to this problem. As someone who only had £100 left in P2P and that in Lendy, in the infamous London loan, I had pretty much given up on ever getting anything back. And as such hadn't kept up with the latest news, (more interesting things to do in life than trawling the internet for the latest P2P or financial news)
So I only found out about what has happened this morning checking my emails, where I appear to have got an update email, but not the original one from a few weeks ago.
Oh well, I know whats happening now, and I know my chances of getting any cash back is slim at best. I was lucky to get out of P2P a few years back, not through any intelligent financial foresight, but I just needed the cash for something else. I'm one of the lucky ones, and I feel sorry for anyone with any significant amounts of cash locked up in this.
Good luck to everyone.
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Post by loftankerman on Jun 8, 2019 10:33:30 GMT
I haven't received anything beyond the one originating from Lendy providing the pdf file download link. Who was this recent update sent by? Thanks.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jun 8, 2019 10:52:02 GMT
It came from "Lendy" (support@lendy.co.uk) - mine timestamped 17.03 7/6
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Post by debaser on Jun 8, 2019 17:09:57 GMT
Why are property loans always such a complete disaster? First Funding Circle, now Lendy. Are the companies not doing due diligence? You would think with the security of an asset they would be able to recoup losses.
I certainly will never ever invest in property loans again, and now I am worried that the same thing will happen on a smaller platform I have more property loans with. It has become clear to me that for some reason, property is just a disaster and nobody in the UK is apparently able to pay off a loan they have used for building or renovating property.
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Post by adrianc on Jun 8, 2019 17:50:35 GMT
Why are property loans always such a complete disaster? First Funding Circle, now Lendy. Are the companies not doing due diligence? You would think with the security of an asset they would be able to recoup losses.
I certainly will never ever invest in property loans again, and now I am worried that the same thing will happen on a smaller platform I have more property loans with. It has become clear to me that for some reason, property is just a disaster and nobody in the UK is apparently able to pay off a loan they have used for building or renovating property.
How many Ly property loans have repaid just fine...?
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Post by ian on Jun 9, 2019 7:59:26 GMT
Good news in the early communication is that £10m plus is held as cash surely that should signal cash repayments and significant repayment on HQ ?
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Post by Mucho P2P on Jun 9, 2019 8:38:09 GMT
Good news in the early communication is that £10m plus is held as cash surely that should signal cash repayments and significant repayment on HQ ? That amount is the cumulative amount held in the lenders cash account. That figure does not include the HQ amount.
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Post by invester on Jun 9, 2019 9:23:32 GMT
Why are property loans always such a complete disaster? First Funding Circle, now Lendy. Are the companies not doing due diligence? You would think with the security of an asset they would be able to recoup losses.
I certainly will never ever invest in property loans again, and now I am worried that the same thing will happen on a smaller platform I have more property loans with. It has become clear to me that for some reason, property is just a disaster and nobody in the UK is apparently able to pay off a loan they have used for building or renovating property.
The problem I feels were brought onto the platforms themselves and inadvertently by investors as well, because we funded the loans. With enough protest votes they would have changed. I remember loans not being drawn down because of a lack of interest. I feel like a bit of a mug being seduced by many of the large developments but larger size increases risk instead of reducing it and should have been priced accordingly. It seems quite clear to me that valuations were friendly and almost designed to secure business rather than act as a brake. Even in the most absurd cases it ended up being OK'd by the valuers. When using GDV almost anything is possible, because the works have not been done yet and it is easy to low-ball costs. The structure of the loans meant that borrowers had little skin in the game, so when things go wrong it was easier to not bother any more and allow it to go bad. Lendy were then not able to sort it out, as the valuations meant that there was little point in carrying out the original plan. To be honest I don't see much wrong in the smaller bridging loans like those on Kuflink (some of them, not all). Here the likely sold value is much easier to predict. Had been saying it for a long time but I can't see why Lendy did not simply change model and go for smaller developments and bridging in 2017/2018 as a heap of good loans at this time could have restored their reputation somewhat. Instead, they did nothing and it became too late, they wrote no new business and as a result their cash ran out. From the outside it seems really bemusing.
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Post by patright on Jun 9, 2019 10:31:58 GMT
The option to withdraw is still available, does it mean we can withdraw or not? I still have not understood that part
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