c88dnf
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Post by c88dnf on Oct 18, 2014 13:21:05 GMT
Anyone else noted that Ratesetter's weekly lending has been on a steady downward trend over the last 6 weeks or so? £7.8M in the week ending Sept 6th: £5.8M this week, with the rest of Saturday to go. Yes, there was the record-breaking £9.4M week at the start of October, but that looks like a blip on the overall downward trend.
Now something important happened just when this downward trend started: the new website. Call me paranoid, but could the reduction in lending be directly related to the introduction of the new website and its well-known issues on several browsers? If borrowers are finding RS hard even to access, then there's trouble brewing.
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Post by davee39 on Oct 18, 2014 19:06:19 GMT
You ARE paranoid.
Your interpretation of the near £10m week as a blip in a downward trend suggests you would be ideally suited to a career in politics.
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Post by c88dnf on Oct 18, 2014 21:58:24 GMT
You ARE paranoid. Your interpretation of the near £10m week as a blip in a downward trend suggests you would be ideally suited to a career in politics. Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get me.... For those who don't have access to the figures, the weekly lending figures for the past 15 weeks are (in millions): 4 weeks to 02/08/14 - £23.42 4 weeks to 30/08/14 - £24.61 w/e 06/09/14 - £7.87 w/e 13/09/14 - £7.53 w/e 20/09/14 - £6.98 w/e 27/09/14 - £6.90 (4 week total £29.28) w/e 04/10/14 - £9.42 w/e 11/10/14 - £6.35 w/e 18/10/14 - £6.04 Let's see what the next 5-9 weeks bring.
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Post by uncletone on Oct 19, 2014 8:07:54 GMT
Christmas...
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Post by gnasher on Oct 19, 2014 8:28:31 GMT
RS did 2 things at once, introduce the new website and run a large advertising campaign. This is never a good idea because you do not know what effect each change had. Although it could be a good idea from the perspective of the website designers because just in case their new brand image/website is flawed they can hide behind the increased business coming from the advertising campaign and pretend that it is a result of their efforts.
Personally I would think that the advertising campaign has had a positive impact, possibly large, while the
purple horror
has had a negative impact, possible large. The former will tend be transitory, while the latter will be permanent until they change the damn thing. So if the trend does continue then I think we will all know where the problem is.
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Post by jackpease on Oct 19, 2014 13:06:35 GMT
Some people will no doubt think that the Purple Pox should not put off investors who should make their decisions not just on looks.
I would counter that a management that allows itself to make a poor decision AND then to deny it and not put it right might also have made/be making other bad decisions which will not be put right.
I am much more wary now of Ratesetter and will lower my 'trust' ceiling for investment in the platform
Jack P
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Post by gnasher on Oct 19, 2014 18:14:59 GMT
hmmm .... Purple Pox ..... I like it. There must be a few more apt alliterations ...
- Puzzling Purple Preference - Putrid Purple Pestulance
actually it is not so much the colour that I object to as the graphics and excess of white space formatting and mix of font size from too big to too small, so harder to see what you want to see, and more effort required to use the site, so .....
- Piss Poor Pale Purple Placements
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Post by c88dnf on Oct 19, 2014 19:25:00 GMT
Lest this whizzes off topic, let me drag it back by noting that loans today (Sunday, 19/10) have been strong, so perhaps a corner has been turned.
I'll be watching the 4 and 12 week rolling averages for lending closely this month. The 4 week rolling average will stop dropping if £6.9M is loaned this coming week, though it'll still be below it's peak; the 12 week average needs loans of £6.2M to level off. Both those values would, of course, represent an increase in loans week-on-week.
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Post by c88dnf on Nov 10, 2014 13:20:08 GMT
Three weeks on and the jury is still out. The attached file gives the raw data which people can play with if they wish. My gut feel is that RS had a spectacular Q3 this year, but that rapid increase in sales has now run out of steam and we're returning to an historic, slower rate of growth. Last week's sales were very low by 2014 RS standards at under £6 million. None of this means that RS is in trouble: just not growing as quickly as it has been. Combine that with some big recent inflows of funds and you have a recipe for lower returns for investors. Damn! RS rolling 4 weekly lending.xls (23 KB)
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Post by stuart543 on Nov 10, 2014 15:30:56 GMT
I don't think the purple has much to do with it but I do think the reduced functionality/utility could be the most likely explanation for recent declines. There is no doubt that the new site is far less user friendly than the old one and furthermore, because it doesn't work with various older browsers, will be deterring some established and prospective customers. I suspect that this will have a disproportionate effect on borrowers as lenders, being committed for a longer term, are more likely to put up with or find ways around the problems (as most of us have). Although the £9.4m peak came shortly after the new site was launched most of that borrowing could have been approved before the changes.
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Post by geoffrey on Nov 11, 2014 9:16:33 GMT
We've still got £1.8 million approved demand for the 4/5 year markets, and a further £1.5 million pending, yet with only £1.8 million total funds on offer from lenders. There is seemingly slow uptake by borrowers of lender offers, certainly over the past week. But if the borrowers want the money, they can only delay for so long. The website hasn't changed so drastically under the hood -- a bit more purple and a bit more whitespace, but otherwise it's the same functionality, so I can't believe it's put off too many people unless there are large numbers stuck with very old browsers.
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Post by jonbvn on Nov 11, 2014 12:28:06 GMT
Three weeks on and the jury is still out. The attached file gives the raw data which people can play with if they wish. My gut feel is that RS had a spectacular Q3 this year, but that rapid increase in sales has now run out of steam and we're returning to an historic, slower rate of growth. Last week's sales were very low by 2014 RS standards at under £6 million. None of this means that RS is in trouble: just not growing as quickly as it has been. Combine that with some big recent inflows of funds and you have a recipe for lower returns for investors. Damn! If you look at that data, you can see the 1 month MA has dropped below the 3 month MA just recently (week 46). A chartist would say this may indicate a downward trend in volumes.....
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Post by star dust on Nov 11, 2014 14:01:06 GMT
As a lender I don't think there is that much reduced functionality either, but I don't know whether there might have been some for borrowers. I would guess that on average borrower's are young(er), and lenders older(er), so old browsers are more likely to be an issue for lenders (witness comments here), and if the site has been optimised for tablets and smartphones, borrower's will be well happy. Purple, now that's another matter.........
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Post by geoffrey on Nov 11, 2014 20:28:23 GMT
It hasn't been optimized for tablets or mobiles. Not once you're inside the system. There are no responsive menus, no restacking of box elements, no hiding of menus. Try narrowing your browser window to the shape of a phone and you'll see that nothing shifts at all. Maybe it's optimized on the borrower side, but on the lender side, only the information pages in front of login are tablet/phone optimized. Bizarre.
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