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Post by tonyr on Oct 26, 2014 11:47:41 GMT
I do hope the system isn't casually changing our targets, or we'll be selling stuff w don't want to sell  Your target should have been set on transition day as exactly what your current holding was unless you had a previous mandate in the old AI). Just to clarify, the message is generated if you change the targets. The second part of the message is applicable only if you raise your target above current investment (I wasn't doing that).
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Post by uncletone on Oct 26, 2014 11:50:38 GMT
(winner of todays' new word comp - deshrapnelification) This will alert uncletone for adjudication. I give it tentative approval (for a non-existent word of course) but might have preferred the easier flow of disshrapnelisation, although the double 's' is disturbing. And why can one be disturbed, but not turbed?
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Post by oldgrumpy on Oct 26, 2014 11:54:00 GMT
I do hope the system isn't casually changing our targets, or we'll be selling stuff w don't want to sell Your target should have been set on transition day as exactly what your current holding was unless you had a previous mandate in the old AI). Just to clarify, the message is generated if you change the targets. The second part of the message is applicable only if you raise your target above current investment (I wasn't doing that). Yes. I'm watching though. Chris hasn't explained why I set a target recently and the system applied a different one! (I'm leaving him be for a few days, because he's so busy on important site corrections, but he may get to my earlier post eventually).
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Post by Come_on_Grandad on Oct 26, 2014 12:01:15 GMT
Whilst I'm thinking about it, the message below makes no sense as £15k is less than my current investment in this loan. There should be simple check and if you are reducing your target then just display the first line, not the second one as well. YOUR TARGET INVESTMENT HAS BEEN SET TO £15,000.00. IF LOAN UNITS ARE/BECOME AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE IN THIS LOAN FOR GREATER THAN THE £855.57 UNINVESTED CASH YOU HOLD ON THIS ACCOUNT, THE PURCHASE WILL BE CAPPED AT £855.57. PLEASE TRANSFER ADDITIONAL CASH TO THIS MANUAL LOAN INVESTMENTS ACCOUNT FROM YOUR CASH ACCOUNT IF YOU WISH TO POTENTIALLY INVEST TO YOUR FULL TARGET. Another example, borrowing your numbers Tonyr, is that if you were to increase a target from your holding of £800 to a new target of £900 the system detects that £900 is more than your available cash and gives the same nonsense message, even though your available cash is adequate for the £100 investment you wish to make.
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tonyr
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Post by tonyr on Oct 26, 2014 15:31:09 GMT
Whilst I'm thinking about it, the message below makes no sense as £15k is less than my current investment in this loan. There should be simple check and if you are reducing your target then just display the first line, not the second one as well. YOUR TARGET INVESTMENT HAS BEEN SET TO £15,000.00. IF LOAN UNITS ARE/BECOME AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE IN THIS LOAN FOR GREATER THAN THE £855.57 UNINVESTED CASH YOU HOLD ON THIS ACCOUNT, THE PURCHASE WILL BE CAPPED AT £855.57. PLEASE TRANSFER ADDITIONAL CASH TO THIS MANUAL LOAN INVESTMENTS ACCOUNT FROM YOUR CASH ACCOUNT IF YOU WISH TO POTENTIALLY INVEST TO YOUR FULL TARGET. Another example, borrowing your numbers Tonyr, is that if you were to increase a target from your holding of £800 to a new target of £900 the system detects that £900 is more than your available cash and gives the same nonsense message, even though your available cash is adequate for the £100 investment you wish to make. This is all simple logic - I'm sure it'll all get fixed soon.
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 26, 2014 19:11:08 GMT
Confused! I have shrapnel in my MLA, a target set on a loan where there are units a plenty available (NLON Com Prop) yet the MAI seems reluctant to make a purchase. Has there been a deshrapnelification of the minimum loan part size with the £1 minimum (or higher) being reinstated?  ?  So 24hrs on my 20p shrapnel remains stubbornly uninvested in my MLIA despite there being 22 loans where my target is unfulfilled and one of these having 600k available to buy. No doubt tomorrow the MAI will suddenly discover the desire to spend said 20p on topping up an amortising loan after a capital repayment.
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Post by Come_on_Grandad on Oct 26, 2014 19:38:59 GMT
Confused! I have shrapnel in my MLA, a target set on a loan where there are units a plenty available (NLON Com Prop) yet the MAI seems reluctant to make a purchase. Has there been a deshrapnelification of the minimum loan part size with the £1 minimum (or higher) being reinstated? ? So 24hrs on my 20p shrapnel remains stubbornly uninvested in my MLIA despite there being 22 loans where my target is unfulfilled and one of these having 600k available to buy. No doubt tomorrow the MAI will suddenly discover the desire to spend said 20p on topping up an amortising loan after a capital repayment. Will it respond if you kick start it? Use the "Adjust Investment" button to move the 20p out to your cash account, and then put it back.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 26, 2014 20:19:06 GMT
So 24hrs onmy 20p shrapnel remains stubbornly uninvested in my MLIA despite there being 22 loans where my target is unfulfilled and one of these having 600k available to buy. No doubt tomorrow the MAI will suddenly discover the desire to spend said 20p on topping up an amortising loan after a capital repayment. Will it respond if you kick start it? Use the "Adjust Investment" button to move the 20p out to your cash account, and then put it back. Tried that earlier. Also raised target by 20p and reduced it to 20p. Changed reinvestment setting to Reinvest and then back again. Nothing happened
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Post by sl75 on Oct 26, 2014 21:44:01 GMT
What seems to work for using up such "shrapnel" is to reduce the target of one of your existing holdings...
When the surplus gets sold, the funds combine with the "shrapnel" to create enough for the system to invest for you.
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Post by chris on Oct 26, 2014 21:58:56 GMT
What seems to work for using up such "shrapnel" is to reduce the target of one of your existing holdings... When the surplus gets sold, the funds combine with the "shrapnel" to create enough for the system to invest for you. That's not the intended behaviour so I will look into this in more detail in the next few days but in the scheme of things it's not an urgent priority.
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Post by gingergent on Oct 26, 2014 22:59:59 GMT
It seems the login timeout is annoyingly more agressive on the new site. Where previously I could keep pages open, and only have to login to refresh them, the new site seems to enforce a redirect to the login page after a period of inactivity. Worse still, when you do login you're not taken back to the page you were on; rather it takes you to the dashboard. This effectively means I lose all browsing "state" every X minutes. It also seems to cause problems with multi-tab browsing; having opened multiple tabs to review different loans, a number had gone to the login page by I got to them, even though I'd had activity in other tabs and was, actually, still logged in. Just re-opening them worked; but of could I had to reverse-engineer to which loan that tab had related!
Is anyone else having problems like this? Is there any solution other than an automated page reloader - which would mean the net effect of the 'security' change is worse security, not better, and also won't fix things if I suspend\resume?
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 26, 2014 23:44:03 GMT
What seems to work for using up such "shrapnel" is to reduce the target of one of your existing holdings... When the surplus gets sold, the funds combine with the "shrapnel" to create enough for the system to invest for you. Shouldnt need to. I have an unfulfilled target on a loan which has 600k avaliable on the AM. There is absolutely no reason I can see, within the limits of my understanding of the system, that the system should not of spent that 20p. Ive pulled it now before it buys something I dont want just to spite me. It will go back tomorrow once Ive adjusted any necessary targets in the hope that it was just taking the weekend off 
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Post by sl75 on Oct 27, 2014 0:05:10 GMT
Shouldnt need to. I have an unfulfilled target on a loan which has 600k avaliable on the AM. There is absolutely no reason I can see, within the limits of my understanding of the system, that the system should not of spent that 20p. Ive pulled it now before it buys something I dont want just to spite me. It will go back tomorrow once Ive adjusted any necessary targets in the hope that it was just taking the weekend off I thought I'd seen a £1 minimum discussed somewhere? Each time I had a balance below £1, it "waited" until there was £1 available before investing (although I would note that this is extrapolating from a very small data set). I'd personally see this as a feature that avoids statements becoming excessively spammy, rather than as a fault. What next - a £0.001 repayment on a £0.20 loan, which must itself be immediately re-invested, generating a payment of the order of £0.00005 the following month?
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Post by ilmoro on Oct 27, 2014 0:13:01 GMT
Shouldnt need to. I have an unfulfilled target on a loan which has 600k avaliable on the AM. There is absolutely no reason I can see, within the limits of my understanding of the system, that the system should not of spent that 20p. Ive pulled it now before it buys something I dont want just to spite me. It will go back tomorrow once Ive adjusted any necessary targets in the hope that it was just taking the weekend off I thought I'd seen a £1 minimum discussed somewhere? Each time I had a balance below £1, it "waited" until there was £1 available before investing (although I would note that this is extrapolating from a very small data set). I'd personally see this as a feature that avoids statements becoming excessively spammy, rather than as a fault. What next - a £0.001 repayment on a £0.20 loan, which must itself be immediately re-invested, generating a payment of the order of £0.00005 the following month? £1 minimum was removed just after launch and the system has been buying chunks of less than £1 for people but you may well be right that you have to have a minimum balance of £1 before the system whirs into action. Quite possible that this was linked to £1 minimum & wasnt changed when minimum purchase was removed.
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Post by pepperpot on Oct 27, 2014 1:23:37 GMT
I thought I'd seen a £1 minimum discussed somewhere? Each time I had a balance below £1, it "waited" until there was £1 available before investing (although I would note that this is extrapolating from a very small data set). I'd personally see this as a feature that avoids statements becoming excessively spammy, rather than as a fault. What next - a £0.001 repayment on a £0.20 loan, which must itself be immediately re-invested, generating a payment of the order of £0.00005 the following month? £1 minimum was removed just after launch and the system has been buying chunks of less than £1 for people but you may well be right that you have to have a minimum balance of £1 before the system whirs into action. Quite possible that this was linked to £1 minimum & wasnt changed when minimum purchase was removed. Looks like you could be right there. I moved all but 60p out of the MLI a/c and adjusted my target to again 20p over holding...nothing happened. Couple of mins later, added 50p to MLI and out the 20p went. So the problem seems to be that you haven't got enough money... and you owe me £1.40! 
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Your target should have been set on transition day as exactly what your current holding was unless you had a previous mandate in the old AI).
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