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Post by chris on May 25, 2016 13:42:26 GMT
Stopped waiting, posted Q 90mins ago. QAA queue is stuck till GBBA/MLIA have somewhere to put funds . Bizarre situation at mo, front stationary, end moving as middle disappears Q deleted as against the rules apparently What was the question?
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Post by ilmoro on May 25, 2016 14:29:29 GMT
Id queried why #271 had drawndown on 23/5 but no GBBA/MLIA accounts had been allocated any loan units (as evidenced by the posts on this thread and the fact that QAA queue hadnt moved for 24hrs in relation to swept funds from GBBA/MLIA). Was there a problem or had it all been taken by QAA? Ive now had a full reply by email - apparently because I referenced multiple accounts outside of my own that made it speculative and against rules. There was apparently no issue because my account bought loan parts 3hrs after the question was posted and 24hrs after drawdown. For the benefit of all the others who are confused by events here is the full explanation. 'Something which may not be apparent on the platform 1 is that after drawdown has occurred there are potentially thousands of buying instructions to service for any particular loan, in addition to the buy and sell instructions for the loan book as a whole, both via the MLIA and all the other Investment Accounts 2 . As such, it is not uncommon for there to be a delay between drawdown and lenders buying instructions being acted upon. This was the case with the #271 loan. As it is impossible to forecast the actual level of activity on the platform and thus demand on the computer systems at the drawdown of a loan, we would suggest delaying posting questions of this nature for at least 3-4 hours (or overnight if drawdown takes place late in the day) after drawdown so as to avoid premature and ultimately redundant questions being raised' So it seems that whereas before drawdown and allocation have happened in a short timeframe, this would appear to be no longer the case. So Dont Panic. Wait patiently, and meanwhile why not occupy yourself reading the duplicate answers to the duplicate questions on at least 8 loans on GBBA eligibility Or in the case of oldgrumpy have a banana! 1 Might be if someone ever writes a FAQ, guide, how it works to inform lenders, otherwise you are reliant on lenders experience, in this case outside that, and interpretation. 2 At a minimum 6793.478261
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Post by davidricketts1 on May 25, 2016 14:30:00 GMT
Stopped waiting, posted Q 90mins ago. QAA queue is stuck till GBBA/MLIA have somewhere to put funds . Bizarre situation at mo, front stationary, end moving as middle disappears Q deleted as against the rules apparently My fault that as it was deleted before a fuller explanation was added.
Should be an email on the way to you this afternoon setting out the position.
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Post by chris on May 25, 2016 15:16:46 GMT
So it seems that whereas before drawdown and allocation have happened in a short timeframe, this would appear to be no longer the case. So Dont Panic. Wait patiently, and meanwhile why not occupy yourself reading the duplicate answers to the duplicate questions on at least 8 loans on GBBA eligibility Or in the case of oldgrumpy have a banana! Drawdown and allocation are discrete events. Allocation can be set up prior to drawdown, and / or compulsory sale of underwriter loan units can occur, but that doesn't have to happen. There was a recent change to the way loan units are released on most loans so that instead of there being a large amount offered on day one they are fed into the market over time - the idea being to smooth availability and peaks and troughs in the amount available on the market. I'm assured there are several loans due to draw before the end of the month, totalling perhaps £3m, and that there will be plenty coming through next month. Currently there are 13 loans flagged in the system for draw down this month, on top of the 10 that have already drawn, although I'd personally be pleasantly surprised if all of them do. This has also been a record month for new loan offers being made which will feed through in 2 - 3 months time.
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Post by Steerpike on May 25, 2016 15:24:58 GMT
Of course there is £5m odd maturing in the next month that will swallow the hoped for £3m without impacting the mountain of cash so it could be a while yet before much in the way of significant MLIA allocations.
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Post by oldgrumpy on May 25, 2016 15:36:16 GMT
"There was a recent change to the way loan units are released on most loans so that instead of there being a large amount offered on day one they are fed into the market over time...."
That is all very well from AC's point of view, but we as lenders have to ensure sufficient funds for the whole of our request are in our account and available for drawdown date, yet AC reduces our allocation (fairly, because many lenders ask for some) then reduces it again*, it seems, to "smooth availability blah blah etc..." so now we don't have any clue what to place in our accounts.
Highly unhelpful, in my opinion.
edit: * and with allocations of £20+ now being made (admittedly on a "small" £100K+ loan) there is little point in most of us keeping cash ready on the platform.
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Post by chris on May 25, 2016 16:29:00 GMT
Of course there is £5m odd maturing in the next month that will swallow the hoped for £3m without impacting the mountain of cash so it could be a while yet before much in the way of significant MLIA allocations. That £3m was a projection for the next week or so. There's another £10m projected for next month although again I'm sure some of that will slip. Should absorb that £5m in maturing loans if it all happens according to plan.
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Post by oldgrumpy on May 25, 2016 16:40:14 GMT
I'm pleased that £3m of loans are due for drawdown before the end of the month. About £517K is in one funded loan and the other funded loan has already been put back several times (now 3 June) so that doesn't count. That leaves nearly £2.5M of underwriters' money which will need to be called and collected in six days between now and 31 May (and 30 May is a bank holiday). Thank goodness Chris has such an optimistic outlook on those given figures/dates. We'll see. By how much will this £3M be held back from lenders to smooth the peaks and troughs of the market? Edit ... oops, a £520K one has just had u/w funds called and drawdown for Friday , only 8% though but still better than parking too much in QAA or 30DAA.
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Post by agent69 on May 25, 2016 18:20:52 GMT
Edit ... oops, a £520K one has just had u/w funds called and drawdown for Friday , only 8% though but still better than parking too much in QAA or 30DAA. Power supply / distribution company that started work in West Africa. Moved operations to UK in 2013. CV's for senior managers not available. No thanks (and no thanks to the 3 month bridge at 9%)
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Post by agent69 on May 25, 2016 18:25:38 GMT
So it seems that whereas before drawdown and allocation have happened in a short timeframe, this would appear to be no longer the case. So Dont Panic. Wait patiently, and meanwhile why not occupy yourself reading the duplicate answers to the duplicate questions on at least 8 loans on GBBA eligibility Or in the case of oldgrumpy have a banana! I'm assured there are several loans due to draw before the end of the month, totalling perhaps £3m, and that there will be plenty coming through next month.
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Post by jonah on May 25, 2016 18:43:18 GMT
#283 seems to have been misplaced somewhere?
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Post by bg on May 25, 2016 19:43:56 GMT
I'm pleased that £3m of loans are due for drawdown before the end of the month. About £517K is in one funded loan and the other funded loan has already been put back several times (now 3 June) so that doesn't count. That leaves nearly £2.5M of underwriters' money which will need to be called and collected in six days between now and 31 May (and 30 May is a bank holiday). Thank goodness Chris has such an optimistic outlook on those given figures/dates. We'll see. By how much will this £3M be held back from lenders to smooth the peaks and troughs of the market? Edit ... oops, a £520K one has just had u/w funds called and drawdown for Friday , only 8% though but still better than parking too much in QAA or 30DAA. The underwriters are no more. All loans are now funded via the QAA which is easy to call and collect from.
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Post by mikes1531 on May 25, 2016 20:44:35 GMT
'As it is impossible to forecast the actual level of activity on the platform and thus demand on the computer systems at the drawdown of a loan, we would suggest delaying posting questions of this nature for at least 3-4 hours (or overnight if drawdown takes place late in the day) after drawdown so as to avoid premature and ultimately redundant questions being raised' The people who answer these questions really need to be told to take a better look at just when questions were asked. Above, they've suggested waiting 3-4 hours, or overnight, before asking questions. That's reasonable, but they seem not to have noticed that ilmoro's question wasn't asked until about 24 hours after drawdown. In the past, they've responded to questions from people asking whether certain data could be made available by saying -- very curtly -- that the appropriate documents already had been uploaded to the website, implying that the questioner should have looked before asking their question. What they seem to have missed was that the documents had been uploaded after the question had been asked !
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Post by oldgrumpy on May 25, 2016 22:19:29 GMT
I'm pleased that £3m of loans are due for drawdown before the end of the month. About £517K is in one funded loan and the other funded loan has already been put back several times (now 3 June) so that doesn't count. That leaves nearly £2.5M of underwriters' money which will need to be called and collected in six days between now and 31 May (and 30 May is a bank holiday). Thank goodness Chris has such an optimistic outlook on those given figures/dates. We'll see. By how much will this £3M be held back from lenders to smooth the peaks and troughs of the market? Edit ... oops, a £520K one has just had u/w funds called and drawdown for Friday , only 8% though but still better than parking too much in QAA or 30DAA. The underwriters are no more. All loans are now funded via the QAA which is easy to call and collect from. Ah! Then I suggest that AC stops plastering the words "underwriting called" on all the upcoming loans. Attachments:
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Post by chris on May 25, 2016 22:28:52 GMT
The underwriters are no more. All loans are now funded via the QAA which is easy to call and collect from. Ah! Then I suggest that AC stops plastering the words "underwriting called" on all the upcoming loans. Underwriters still exist and are still used, they're just no longer our only source for funding the drawing of loans. The underwriting called flag is perhaps a legacy phrase but just forms part of our drawdown process and is shown to let lenders know that drawdown is imminent. I'm sure we'll relabel it at some point but it isn't a priority.
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