squid
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Post by squid on Oct 3, 2019 10:05:48 GMT
I have no blame for the high-street bank which I used to transfer fairly considerable sums to Collateral over a a period of 18 months or so.
However, I have today raised a complaint with them because under their how to avoid investment scams section they are still advising potential investors to check the FCA register (with a link to the register) to see if a company you are thinking of doing business with is actually authorised to provide regulated financial services - in order to avoid unscrupulous operators.
My complaint here is that this advice from my bank would lead investors to believe that the FCA register is therefore accurate and can be relied upon, as there is no disclaimer to say otherwise. The bank is currently looking into this issue..
I have asked that the advice they have recommended - to check the FCA register to avoid investment scams or unscrupulous operators - needs to include a disclaimer to state that the register must not be relied upon as being accurate (so basically it is somewhat pointless).
If the bank does change its advice as a result of my complaint, it might at least embarrass the FCA, and raise the further issue of what alternative advice the bank might instead provide.
If the bank doesn't change its statement about their recommendation of checking of the FCA register to include a disclaimer about not relying upon its accuracy, then I will likely bring a further complaint in due course for their continuing to knowingly publish advice which might be considered as being misleading.
Perhaps other Collateral investors might like to look at the information which their bank provides on how to avoid investment scams, and based upon our experience in this case, if it might be considered as being in any way inaccurate, incomplete, or misleading.
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Post by brightspark on Oct 3, 2019 17:31:15 GMT
Lovely bit of lateral thinking!
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Post by chriscross on Oct 4, 2019 16:22:37 GMT
I like your logic squid..
So i've checked my bank in the hope of the same and to follow up with a nice little letter.
Unfortunately mine seem have erred on the side of caution by reversing the statement and just suggesting that if a company is not FCA Registered then any investments with them is likely to be a scam..
Bugger, worth a try though..
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Post by radar on Oct 4, 2019 18:21:14 GMT
Is not the whole point of this, that they WERE listed as being registed
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squid
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Post by squid on Oct 4, 2019 18:29:43 GMT
radar - absolutely correct. So chriscross theoretically has cause to complain too, because that statement is perhaps implying if a company is FCA Registered then all is well - and we certainly know otherwise...
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Post by chriscross on Oct 4, 2019 22:35:26 GMT
Unfortunately my bank's comment is far too vague and safe to ram a complaint home that could actually hold up in a court of law..
I do try to keep on top of our rights and the law in this country, and by stating that you should be wary of a company that doesn't have FCA approval as it's potentially a scam does not automatically imply that you should always trust a company that is FCA approved, as there could be many other factors relating to a company that scams with FCA approval being just one of those factors.
As with all these things its a very fine line, but I do believe that you have a much stronger case squid, and, as you say potentially cause a bit of embarrassment to the FCA, not a bad thing..
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Post by duck on Oct 5, 2019 5:49:37 GMT
One thing to note here is that the register that had 'problems' was the Interim Permissions Register, not the 'main' register. It was the IP register that was open to, shall we say, errors being shown and entered. This 'issue' has now, we are assured, been closed.
Devil and detail as always.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Oct 5, 2019 10:27:22 GMT
One thing to note here is that the register that had 'problems' was the Interim Permissions Register, not the 'main' register. It was the IP register that was open to, shall we say, errors being shown and entered. This 'issue' has now, we are assured, been closed. Devil and detail as always. And interim permission meant nothing apart from the company was already running a P2P platform, and rather than shut down all the existing platforms they were allowed to carry on trading until the FCA got round to a look see. Although in Cols case...
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Post by squid on Oct 5, 2019 12:24:11 GMT
The bottom line here is if any bank is offering advice to its customers on how to avoid investment scams or unscrupulous operators, then that advice really ought to be the most suitable and up to date advice. If the advice provided is in any way inaccurate, incomplete or misleading, then that creates a potential problem, particularly in the case where funds have been lost.
By raising this with my bank, it has at least made them aware of the issue experienced with the FCA register and the Collateral entry which appeared to show that it was an authorised firm. I am hopeful that as a result, the bank will liaise with the FCA about what advice they should currently be providing to its customers.
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Post by duck on Oct 5, 2019 13:00:53 GMT
..... By raising this with my bank, it has at least made them aware of the issue experienced with the FCA register and the Collateral entry which appeared to show that it was an authorised firm. I am hopeful that as a result, the bank will liaise with the FCA about what advice they should currently be providing to its customers. I'm not disagreeing with you here, the point of my post was to highlight what will come back from the FCA unless 'suitable' words are used.
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Post by squid on Oct 5, 2019 13:10:55 GMT
Hi duck - yes, I know your post was not in disagreement. Lets hope some good comes out of our collective efforts to get the right outcome.
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Post by noo6py on Oct 8, 2019 10:42:09 GMT
Good idea Squid, I've just sent in a complaint to my bank, whose website still currently (and boldly) states:
"If you’re looking to invest but you’re not sure about the company, always check the FCA Register to see if the firm or individual you are dealing with is authorised."
..under their How to Avoid Investment Scams section!
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