bob2014
Member of DD Central
Posts: 54
Likes: 3
|
Post by bob2014 on Nov 16, 2014 10:03:05 GMT
Anyone have any dealings with this company? It's a member of the peer2peer association and claims £3M+ lending this year.
|
|
|
Post by oldnick on Nov 16, 2014 10:12:08 GMT
Not I, but if you ask them to contact the forum, and a board set up for them, it might attract some opinions from 'the crowd'.
|
|
ilmoro
Member of DD Central
'Wondering which of the bu***rs to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.' - Pink Floyd
Posts: 11,315
Likes: 11,523
|
Post by ilmoro on Nov 16, 2014 14:18:33 GMT
They seem to be getting heavily promoted on lovemoney.com currently. I signed up ages ago & then never went any further as better rates elsewhere. Basic premise seems similar to Zopa, you allocate % of funds between up to 3 & up to 5 year loans at a platform determined rate which changes regularly. Money lent to unsecured borrowers for various terms at the the specified rate. Provision fund. Seems to be a slightly better proposition than Zopa currently. Better than Ratestter on short term. No fees either. Seems like a reasonable proposition in the 'unsophisticated', lend & forget market.
|
|
baz657
Member of DD Central
Posts: 500
Likes: 189
|
Post by baz657 on Nov 16, 2014 14:53:03 GMT
I've dipped a very small toe in to see how it compares.
|
|
bob2014
Member of DD Central
Posts: 54
Likes: 3
|
Post by bob2014 on Nov 17, 2014 17:15:41 GMT
Have now also put a toe in, hope it works out... Nice reactions from customer service so far.
|
|
|
Post by westonkevRS on Nov 18, 2014 7:01:12 GMT
I've met them on several occasions, they are members of an industry fraud trade body. Nice, professional people and I expect they'll do well. I have asked them to set up here, perhaps if they do they'll even get some of my lender cash! They have an interesting additional layer of protection from "insurance". I'd be interested to know more about this. They get a mention here: www.independent.co.uk/money/spend-save/money-alert-alternative-finance-9862551.html but this only mentions job loss, illness and death. Whereas the primary reasons/definitions for default are debt spiral and over-indebtedness. But perhaps this was just the newspaper not being thorough, and the insurance covers everything? Kevin.
|
|
baz657
Member of DD Central
Posts: 500
Likes: 189
|
Post by baz657 on Nov 18, 2014 10:15:59 GMT
Payment has to be made by bank transfer and was notified as received by 3pm on the day following the transfer. Within an hour of offering it on the market all of the £200 was allocated (I'd chosen up to 3 years only), £80 plus £80 over three years and £40 over two years, both at 4.08%. It appears that any rate review is carried out first thing Monday mornings as that rate is valid until next Sunday. All in all a very painless and easy experience.
|
|
baz657
Member of DD Central
Posts: 500
Likes: 189
|
Post by baz657 on Nov 24, 2014 18:28:30 GMT
Email came in Friday with the rates for the next week. Up to 3 year loans - 4.1% Up to 5 year loans - 5.5%
No change from last week.
They are also having a cashback promotion (not sure if it's for new as well as current lenders) so I added some more and received the email telling me it had arrived within an hour. I've just set up the Autolend* facility with 80% of the funds up to 3 years and the remaining 20% up to 5 years. It'll be interesting to see how quickly they get allocated.
* Autolend There are three options:
up to 3 years
up to 5 years
wallet (your cash account)
You decide how much to reinvest by typing a number in the % box. Nice, simple and easy (if it works).
|
|
bugs4me
Member of DD Central
Posts: 1,845
Likes: 1,478
|
Post by bugs4me on Nov 24, 2014 22:45:31 GMT
I've met them on several occasions, they are members of an industry fraud trade body. Nice, professional people and I expect they'll do well. I have asked them to set up here, perhaps if they do they'll even get some of my lender cash! They have an interesting additional layer of protection from "insurance". I'd be interested to know more about this. They get a mention here: www.independent.co.uk/money/spend-save/money-alert-alternative-finance-9862551.html but this only mentions job loss, illness and death. Whereas the primary reasons/definitions for default are debt spiral and over-indebtedness. But perhaps this was just the newspaper not being thorough, and the insurance covers everything? Kevin. Without sight of the insurance Key Facts then it sounds like PPI. A default due to simply borrowing too much and not being able to repay would not qualify. If Lending Works would care to clarify then that may gain some confidence perhaps although as they appear to have declined an invite to participate I doubt if any will be forthcoming.
|
|
|
Post by Matthew on Nov 25, 2014 9:47:35 GMT
Hi guys
Just wanted to introduce myself as a representative of Lending Works. We're certainly happy to discuss any issues you have on here.
Thanks for taking the time to post. To address a couple of earlier comments:
In insurance terms, loan defaults generally fall into either "can't pay" or "won't pay". Our Shield seeks to minimise the risks to lenders as far as possible using insurance to cover defaults from the "can't pays" and a reserve fund to cover loan arrears and defaults from the "won't pays". The insurance covers redundancy and loss of employment, critical illness and death, in addition to systemic fraud and cybercrime.
Westonkev makes a good point regarding debt spiral/overindebtedness - this is certainly true of a loan book which covers a wide risk spectrum, including loans originated with high indebtedness ratios. However, for a prime loan book with extremely prudent indebtedness/DTI requirements, this risk diminishes (albeit can never be eliminated). There of course exists a risk that we lend to a borrower at the very start of a debt spiral, however this is deemed to be an acceptable risk given the robustness of our underwriting process. The thought process behind the insurance was to provide protection against the effects of major negative economic events such as widespread unemployment during and following recession, whilst still offering extremely competitive lender returns.
Our arrears and default rates are both still 0.00% almost 11 months in - clearly we do not yet have a mature loan book but as time goes on this should start to increase confidence in our underwriting process.
I'd also add that our reserve fund currently covers in excess of 2x our overall (prudently calculated) expected default rate. So even without any insurance cover this is still a healthy safety net. I hope that helps clarify a few points.
Thanks
|
|
bob2014
Member of DD Central
Posts: 54
Likes: 3
|
Post by bob2014 on Nov 25, 2014 10:18:52 GMT
I have been playing with this for a week now investing small amounts to test activity, I have had bites from 3 year market most days but only one bite so far at 5 years.
I feel very lonely on this site with no view of any activity other than my own - no general loan stats or bids accepted or anything like that to show general activity.
There is no information under the statements tab. So a trail of when I added funds received interest etc. is not available. I hope this will arrive soon.
Welcome to the forum Matthew hope we can build some regular activity here.
|
|
|
Post by Matthew on Nov 25, 2014 10:48:17 GMT
Hi Bob Our 3 year market is very active at the moment - funds are typically being matched within 24-48 hours. When we increased our 5 year rates we had a large influx of lending capital so it's taken some time to work through that queue - apologies for any delays in matching your 5 year funds. We'll be turning on additional loan channels in the new year which will increase the demand for 4 and 5 year loans, so matching times will improve accordingly. We do have some general loan stats on our Statistics page: www.lendingworks.co.uk/community/statistics-centreHowever, we are keen to hear from our lenders if there is additional information you wish for us to show. We're constantly looking at improvements in this respect so welcome your comments. We're also fully committed to transparency - we started off from the viewpoint of keeping things simple, but this has to be balanced with availability of information. You'll receive lender statements on a monthly basis (downloadable pdfs from the Statements screen). However, adding a live transactions trail to your Lender account is something we'll look to implement Bob, thanks for noting.
|
|
baz657
Member of DD Central
Posts: 500
Likes: 189
|
Post by baz657 on Nov 25, 2014 11:13:24 GMT
By 11am £5k has all been allocated over 7 loans, with just under £1k (2 loans) for 12 months (still at 4.08%!) with the rest over three years so no complaints there. The website needs some tweaking and could probably do with some feedback and ideas but it appears that "the system" itself works well - and that's quite an achievement based on other platforms performances. The promised cashback hasn't shown up yet but I'm sure it will in the next couple of days.
|
|
|
Post by Matthew on Nov 25, 2014 11:22:58 GMT
By 11am £5k has all been allocated over 7 loans, with just under £1k (2 loans) for 12 months (still at 4.08%!) with the rest over three years so no complaints there. The website needs some tweaking and could probably do with some feedback and ideas but it appears that "the system" itself works well - and that's quite an achievement based on other platforms performances. The promised cashback hasn't shown up yet but I'm sure it will in the next couple of days. Just to clarify - the rates you see advertised apply across all loan terms within that pool. For example, if you lend "Up to 3 years" you'll receive that rate on 1, 2 and 3 year loans. With no fees for re-lending, you will not be any worse off by being allocated 1 year loans. In fact, you'll be better off as 4.1% is a market leading 1 year rate of return. Clearly though you should expect that some of your funds would be allocated over 3 years so you should bear this in mind. Thanks for the feedback - any ideas are welcome and will be considered. Regarding your cashback promotion - you should receive this next week. Thanks
|
|
baz657
Member of DD Central
Posts: 500
Likes: 189
|
Post by baz657 on Nov 25, 2014 11:33:40 GMT
Thanks for the info on the cashback Matthew. Sorry if I gave the impression that 4.08% return for a 1 year loan is a bad thing, I meant to imply completely the opposite. I was hoping they'd all be over 12 months
|
|