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Post by dan1 on Oct 31, 2020 21:18:19 GMT
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Post by dan1 on Oct 31, 2020 21:31:47 GMT
Interesting scoop on vaccines and yet more cronyism Edit: read the twitter thread
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Post by agent69 on Oct 31, 2020 21:34:44 GMT
I've never understood why the takeaway sale of alcohol (supermarkets, off licences nd the like) wasn't banned a long time ago. Just so's I'm sure I didn't misunderstand... Can you clarify what extra covid risk a bottle of Chilean Cab Sauv from the supermarket (either in the flesh or delivered) poses over, say, a loaf of white sliced? Or are you meaning more generally? Because, afaict, prohibition didn't work terribly well last time. Every time you read of groups of 30 or 40 people gathering somewhere breaking lockdown, it always seems to be a party type social function where booze is involved. You wouldn't get anywhere near as many student parties if they had to remain tea total.
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Post by mrk on Oct 31, 2020 21:55:19 GMT
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Post by benaj on Oct 31, 2020 22:15:08 GMT
Get alcohol delivery from a local shop to a local park, drink and ”exercise” with 1 person from another household.
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Post by registerme on Oct 31, 2020 22:39:19 GMT
Every time you read of groups of 30 or 40 people gathering somewhere breaking lockdown, it always seems to be a party type social function where booze is involved. You wouldn't get anywhere near as many student parties if they had to remain tea total. Your point above was perfectly valid without reference to students (and I would have agreed with it), so why make it? I really don't understand your continued hate (contempt? derision? resentment?) for them .
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Post by adrianc on Oct 31, 2020 22:42:40 GMT
Just so's I'm sure I didn't misunderstand... Can you clarify what extra covid risk a bottle of Chilean Cab Sauv from the supermarket (either in the flesh or delivered) poses over, say, a loaf of white sliced? Or are you meaning more generally? Because, afaict, prohibition didn't work terribly well last time. Every time you read of groups of 30 or 40 people gathering somewhere breaking lockdown, it always seems to be a party type social function where booze is involved. You wouldn't get anywhere near as many student parties if they had to remain tea total. So perhaps just bar social gatherings of, say, more than half a dozen people? Oh, wait. That worked about as well as prohibition.
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Post by IFISAcava on Nov 1, 2020 10:34:03 GMT
Starting a lockdown is much easier than ending it. As I said initially, 2 weeks was never going be the likely duration, and I think it will be still be very difficult to lift after 4. People will still be dying and it will always be argued to be "too soon". The language of "circuit breaker" was misleading, and has already been dropped it seems.
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Post by benaj on Nov 1, 2020 10:58:09 GMT
NI started measures early like 2 weeks ago. it's working, but still not fast enough. 😑 The benchmark to beat is 76 days in Wuhan www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/04/08/photos-joy-as-wuhan-opens-after-76-day-coronavirus-lockdown/amp/Since England is about to start the lockdown, it might be better just to start the 0 covid strategy now for long term benefit None of these circuit breakers has a clear objective of what they suppose to achieve in terms hospitalisation, R, new daily cases and deaths. I suppose most people would expect immediate freedom even when these circuit breakers period finish even if they don't work.
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Post by registerme on Nov 2, 2020 10:28:49 GMT
Well, wouldn't you know it, Farage is now as much of an armchair epidemiologist as the rest of us .
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Post by benaj on Nov 2, 2020 10:36:01 GMT
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Post by mrk on Nov 2, 2020 10:46:33 GMT
Well, wouldn't you know it, Farage is now as much of an armchair epidemiologist as the rest of us . I read his article on The Telegraph and it doesn't make any sense to me. Focused protection is the key, targeting resources at those most at risk: the elderly, vulnerable or those with other medical conditions. Many of them would prefer to hug their grandchildren and enjoy a family Christmas. They should not be criminalised for the simple acts that make life worth living, particularly in their final years.How are the elderly not going to get infected when they "hug their grandchildren and enjoy a family Christmas"? And if he's saying they should be free to get infected if they so wish, what are we going to do when the NHS runs out of capacity? That's the key question completely ignored by the "Great Barrington Declaration". They basically want to take away my right to health care, and I'm certainly not going to accept that.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 2, 2020 11:12:41 GMT
Well, wouldn't you know it, Farage is now as much of an armchair epidemiologist as the rest of us . I read his article on The Telegraph and it doesn't make any sense to me. Nigel Farage in "not making any sense" shock. Hold the front page.
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Post by benaj on Nov 2, 2020 11:19:30 GMT
According to the latest PHE National flu and COVID-19 surveillance graph, positivity rate excceds 30% in 45-64 age group
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Post by adrianc on Nov 2, 2020 11:34:44 GMT
According to the latest PHE National flu and COVID-19 surveillance graph, positivity rate excceds 30% in 45-64 age group Is that just a reflection of how hard it is to get a test...?
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