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Post by michaelc on Nov 12, 2021 20:00:17 GMT
In the last 2 days or so i'd been feeling a bit off so Mrs aju and myself did some lateral flow tests and to my surprise mine came up +ve (Indicating i may have covid.) I booked up for a local PCR test and had it yesterday. Got an email today to confirm I have Covid. This is where the waters get very muddy today at the least. To cut a long story short am i the only one who thinks the NHS Covid App is confusing and at present suggesting I get a PCR test when in fact I just had one yesterday!. Looking at the app and the online services it does seem that the whole thing is somewhat confused and contradictory. Oh well i'm not allowed out for 10 days and since i was about to have my booster i cannot have that either. Looks like i won't get the booster now until December. Having had the AZ both times earlier in the year the experts are now suggesting that we may be better off having the boosters after 5 months. Lets hope i don't go downhill. I keep thinking of the Temptations 1970 song "Ball of confusion!" (I'm off to the Indian reservation!) PS.. I don't feel I have any of the known covid symptoms as far as i can tell!. Just feels like a bad cold and paracetamol tabs help. No signs of respiratory issues but having to blow nose quite a bit and a slightly raised temp. Odd cough here and there but nothing hacking as such! So, firstly let me say I hope and expect you to recover fairly quickly as that is by far the most likely outcome (even unvaccinated over 80s have something like 73% success rate). Next this might be a long rambling email so you or anyone else baulks at reading so much from a stranger no problem I understand, please skip to the next post. I was going to delay writing up my recent and somewhat ongoing experiences until the event was behind me not to tempt fate but having read this from a fellow forumite I feel I want to get it out of my system. My story probably is really boring to most so do skip the rest ! So last Saturday I set off to Ukraine where my wife and 2 little ones were waiting. She told me over the past few weeks, first George (4 year old at nursery) got fairly badly ill with a "cold", then his twin sister and around a day before I left my wife was also not symptom free. I asked over the previous 2 week period to please get tested. I said she should buy an antigen kit and do it from home its so convenient. I asked multiple multiple times. It never happened and on the day I turned up last Saturday she said "...oh I found an old nhs test here and did that it was negative...". Great. Except on Sunday morning I got her to do another test with me doing the mechanics of it with a positive test! Boy, was I "happy" I'm 50 and she is 40 and there I was having just turned up and spent some time (thankfully not in the same bedroom) contemplating waiting to catch this effing disease. Then once caught, waiting to see if I fit into the unlucky covid genetic category of going down hill. Yes, sadly (and selfishly?) I was terrified. To be fair to my wife, on the positive LF she immediately said she should put on a mask at home and I started wearing some high quality 3M ffp2 and later fpp3 masks. Windows were opened (its -4 here at night) but it was still a struggle to get the windows open as much as I'd like as fighting against mother's wish to keep 4 year olds warm. (We have radiator, built-in air conditioners that heat well AND underfloor heating here.....) So since that Sunday, I've been taking a LF test myself every day and so far touch wood I've been negative. (She had a confirmatory positive PCR test that showed a viral load on cycle 20 which is/was high). She has to use the whole flat to keep the kids fed and in retrospective it might have been better for her to isolate in the her room and me to cook/clean all day for kids but I'd probably get it wrong and she'd be out all the time telling me what to do so in the event I have one/two "clean rooms" - my bedroom that she doesn't and one of the kids don't go in (George is much more mobile and I let him in partly because he recovered from his "cold" 1-2 weeks ago) plus a separate bathroom that in theory she doesn't go in. That latter point about shared bathrooms made me wonder. Surely a shared kitchen is far more dangerous? What is the deal with bathrooms and why isn't it spelled out for thickies like me? I go and do my business, presumably get a bit of virus under my legs if I'm sitting down and then wash my hands. How will it enter my system? The kitchen I assume would be humming with it. Hence before eating anything (in my bedroom of course) I fill the sink with very hot soapy water and rewash myself a plate, knife etc. I've now taken to keeping bread/cheese/cold-stuff on my balcony instead of the fridge but at the start I was probably cutting from the same bread etc.... Certainly wouldn't think about eating anything she has cooked. IF things continue well for me (I should say her symptoms "peaked" on Monday and weren't much so we're really not worried much about her) I will put 90% of the reason I haven't got it so far due to my vaccine. Its already 5 months old and the same as your (AZ). She had Moderana and more recently. That and her age have put her in good stead I think. As I say I wanted to say more on that subject well after the event to avoid tempting fate! Regarding symptoms, I believe the old cough/temperature stuff is now rubbish. If you look at the Zoe Tracker you'll see the top 5 are basically cold-like symptoms. I think that is a change due to Delta. So runny nose headache etc are right at the top. One last interesting (to me) observation in all this is I _think_ that essentially the LF tests only tell you if your symptoms are Covid or not. If you have no symptoms I think you are unlikely to test positive with LF. That is because on infection, the disease starts with a handful (ok relatively small) number of viruses. They increase and increase until a few days later (5 average) your immune system kicks back and you experience symptoms. At that point, there is enough viral concentration in the body for the LF/antigen test to pick it up. So in other words the usefulness of the antigen test is solely to tell you whether your cold like symptoms are in fact a cold or Covid-19. Taking the test in the very early days is going to result in a negative as not enough viral build up.
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Post by registerme on Nov 12, 2021 21:40:03 GMT
michaelc fwiw my neighbour started to feel a bit grotty last weekend (he'd been double jabbed) so got himself tested - positive. I spoke to him today (by phone!!!!), his wife and two kids have also now tested positive. He's fine, they're fine. But yeah, I understand the concern.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 12, 2021 22:01:49 GMT
I feel that 'liking' that post is the wrong thing to do, but I've 'liked' it anyway. What a state governance of this country is in.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 12, 2021 22:24:50 GMT
So, firstly let me say I hope and expect you to recover fairly quickly as that is by far the most likely outcome (even unvaccinated over 80s have something like 73% success rate). .... So last Saturday I set off to Ukraine where my wife and 2 little ones were waiting. She told me over the past few weeks, first George (4 year old at nursery) got fairly badly ill with a "cold", then his twin sister and around a day before I left my wife was also not symptom free. I asked over the previous 2 week period to please get tested. I said she should buy an antigen kit and do it from home its so convenient. I asked multiple multiple times. It never happened and on the day I turned up last Saturday she said "...oh I found an old nhs test here and did that it was negative...". Great. Except on Sunday morning I got her to do another test with me doing the mechanics of it with a positive test! Boy, was I "happy" I'm 50 and she is 40 and there I was having just turned up and spent some time (thankfully not in the same bedroom) contemplating waiting to catch this effing disease. Then once caught, waiting to see if I fit into the unlucky covid genetic category of going down hill. Yes, sadly (and selfishly?) I was terrified. To be fair to my wife, on the positive LF she immediately said she should put on a mask at home and I started wearing some high quality 3M ffp2 and later fpp3 masks. Windows were opened (its -4 here at night) but it was still a struggle to get the windows open as much as I'd like as fighting against mother's wish to keep 4 year olds warm. (We have radiator, built-in air conditioners that heat well AND underfloor heating here.....) So since that Sunday, I've been taking a LF test myself every day and so far touch wood I've been negative. (She had a confirmatory positive PCR test that showed a viral load on cycle 20 which is/was high). She has to use the whole flat to keep the kids fed and in retrospective it might have been better for her to isolate in the her room and me to cook/clean all day for kids but I'd probably get it wrong and she'd be out all the time telling me what to do so in the event I have one/two "clean rooms" - my bedroom that she doesn't and one of the kids don't go in (George is much more mobile and I let him in partly because he recovered from his "cold" 1-2 weeks ago) plus a separate bathroom that in theory she doesn't go in. That latter point about shared bathrooms made me wonder. Surely a shared kitchen is far more dangerous? What is the deal with bathrooms and why isn't it spelled out for thickies like me? I go and do my business, presumably get a bit of virus under my legs if I'm sitting down and then wash my hands. How will it enter my system?The kitchen I assume would be humming with it. Hence before eating anything (in my bedroom of course) I fill the sink with very hot soapy water and rewash myself a plate, knife etc. I've now taken to keeping bread/cheese/cold-stuff on my balcony instead of the fridge but at the start I was probably cutting from the same bread etc.... Certainly wouldn't think about eating anything she has cooked. .... One last interesting (to me) observation in all this is I _think_ that essentially the LF tests only tell you if your symptoms are Covid or not. If you have no symptoms I think you are unlikely to test positive with LF. That is because on infection, the disease starts with a handful (ok relatively small) number of viruses. They increase and increase until a few days later (5 average) your immune system kicks back and you experience symptoms. At that point, there is enough viral concentration in the body for the LF/antigen test to pick it up. So in other words the usefulness of the antigen test is solely to tell you whether your cold like symptoms are in fact a cold or Covid-19. Taking the test in the very early days is going to result in a negative as not enough viral build up. Firstly, obviously I wish you and your family the best. The kids are very very unlikely to get seriously ill unless they have prior conditions: I know you know that. You have been double vaccinated, and while you didn't have your booster (unless something changed) that is likely to mean you are in a pretty good position (serious underlying health conditions not withstanding). Fully understand why you would be worried, but given your vaccination status you are in a pretty good place. I think that in the UK around 80-90% of those hospitalised with Covid are unvaccinated: which considering that the vast majority of the most vulnerable are vaccinated means the chances of getting serious disease when vaccinated are very small. On the topic of kitchens. I've no idea what is generally said about them. But back in the days when certain cohorts were tagged as 'Shielded', the guidance issued was pretty strict regarding kitchens: Don't be in them as the same time as other members of your household (ok, that pretty much applied to any room at all since one was meant to shut oneself away); prepare you own food; have surfaces cleaned down before you go in there etc. I recall no similar advice about bathrooms, regardless of which I can think of at least one part of the anatomy which might be a vulnerable pathway. Sorry your trip over there is turning out to be not very ideal. But keep in mind you are almost certainly in a pretty strong place to fight it.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 12, 2021 22:50:13 GMT
Our 6 months is up on 27 November. Once our time is up, it's not clear whether we should still expect a booster invite, or should go to a walk-in instead. According to the NHS website
Most people can:
- book a vaccination appointment online for an appointment at a vaccination centre or pharmacy
- go to a walk-in vaccination site to get vaccinated without needing an appointment
- wait to be contacted by a local NHS service such as a GP surgery and book an appointment with them
Looking at the post code checker my nearest walk in site is 20 miles away
pikestaff michaelc While the 'announcement' talks about 'walkins', in practice this will depend on your local centre. Ours is still currently not doing walk-ins (we were doing walk-ins for 1st/2nd at various times in the past, but not currently for boosters). So I would NOT rely on that, especially as there really is little point in doing so given the ability to now advance book per below. To the point on whether you will get notifications: I don't know what the current situation is, but I believe that notifications at 6 months is still happening, albeit it with a few days delay - i got my notification at 6 months plus 4 days: a bit late as I circumvented and got at 6 months plus 2 days. The point with the current setup is that you still can't get your booster until 6 months, but you can now book the appointment at the nhs website from 5+ months. Which is why walkin's for boosters if you are yet to hit the 6 months is a bit of a red herring as you can book it well in advance to hit the 6 month window. At our centre, if you turn up as a 'walk-in' you'll be able to use your presence to book a future appointment, but not (currently) to actually get jabbed. Late first jabs - i.e. those older than the 12-15 cohort - and late second jabs (i.e. beyond their original scheduled second appointment which they didn't turn up for) will be taken in, assuming there are sufficient slots and vaccine for that day. It all feels as if running as a a bit of a 'tighter ship' than when we were dealing with second jabs: I don't know the reason, but wonder whether that might be because everything is now Pfizer rather than AZ dominated; and the stricter storage requirements of Pfizer means they have to plan around a more specific number of shots per day more closely aligned to number of booked appointments. This latter is speculation.
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Post by pikestaff on Nov 13, 2021 7:59:59 GMT
bracknellboy Thanks, but the exchange you quote took place shortly before the govt announced that booking would open after 5 months - with effect from Monday 8th. We booked our slots then.
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 13, 2021 12:23:43 GMT
michaelc As somebody mid-60s who's reached the 6 month point since second jab, I've been researching how much protection I currently have. It's generally felt that, despite the antibody count waning by that time, one's immune system is still reckoned to mount a sufficient T and B cell 'memory' response to fight the disease successfully. It so happens I got my booster call-up for this afternoon (Moderna). At age 50 and double jabbed... even 5 months in... by all means take your precautions, but I think you don't need to worry, you should be well protected. I also worry about the psychological damage to our children up and down the country who witness adults in fear or distress, but I know you're wise enough to be taking this into account.
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Nov 13, 2021 13:12:27 GMT
michaelc As somebody mid-60s who's reached the 6 month point since second jab, I've been researching how much protection I currently have. It's generally felt that, despite the antibody count waning by that time, one's immune system is still reckoned to mount a sufficient T and B cell 'memory' response to fight the disease successfully. It so happens I got my booster call-up for this afternoon (Moderna). At age 50 and double jabbed... even 5 months in... by all means take your precautions, but I think you don't need to worry, you should be well protected. I also worry about the psychological damage to our children up and down the country who witness adults in fear or distress, but I know you're wise enough to be taking this into account. Deftly put. I think there is a clear danger for many that the fear of something happening starts to outweigh it actually happening. Having taken all the sensible steps to mitigating it being fatal/seriously debilitating if I did catch the virus, I have for some months now been treating it as a mitigated risk and behaving much as normal. I am a bit of a 'testing tart' taking lateral flow tests if I am going to be meeting people, but that is more because I wouldn't like to unwittingly give it to anybody. Having said that, it is pretty much impossible for people to alter their mindsets on some topics, so I hope it works out well for michaelc
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 13, 2021 13:37:05 GMT
Seconded, testing tart 🤣🤣
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Post by benaj on Nov 13, 2021 13:45:32 GMT
Now it is easy to “Find a walk-in coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination site” as long as you are eligible. Any one over 18+ with registered with the NHS number can “grab a jab”.
Some vaccination centres have “everything” while others may only have Moderna.
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Post by keitha on Nov 13, 2021 13:55:48 GMT
Got my appointment for my booster, it will be 1 day short of the 6 months
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 13, 2021 20:55:15 GMT
In the last 2 days or so i'd been feeling a bit off so Mrs aju and myself did some lateral flow tests and to my surprise mine came up +ve (Indicating i may have covid.) I booked up for a local PCR test and had it yesterday. Got an email today to confirm I have Covid. This is where the waters get very muddy today at the least. To cut a long story short am i the only one who thinks the NHS Covid App is confusing and at present suggesting I get a PCR test when in fact I just had one yesterday!. Looking at the app and the online services it does seem that the whole thing is somewhat confused and contradictory. Oh well i'm not allowed out for 10 days and since i was about to have my booster i cannot have that either. Looks like i won't get the booster now until December. Having had the AZ both times earlier in the year the experts are now suggesting that we may be better off having the boosters after 5 months. Lets hope i don't go downhill. I keep thinking of the Temptations 1970 song "Ball of confusion!" (I'm off to the Indian reservation!) PS.. I don't feel I have any of the known covid symptoms as far as i can tell!. Just feels like a bad cold and paracetamol tabs help. No signs of respiratory issues but having to blow nose quite a bit and a slightly raised temp. Odd cough here and there but nothing hacking as such! So, firstly let me say I hope and expect you to recover fairly quickly as that is by far the most likely outcome (even unvaccinated over 80s have something like 73% success rate). Next this might be a long rambling email so you or anyone else baulks at reading so much from a stranger no problem I understand, please skip to the next post. I was going to delay writing up my recent and somewhat ongoing experiences until the event was behind me not to tempt fate but having read this from a fellow forumite I feel I want to get it out of my system. My story probably is really boring to most so do skip the rest ! So last Saturday I set off to Ukraine where my wife and 2 little ones were waiting. She told me over the past few weeks, first George (4 year old at nursery) got fairly badly ill with a "cold", then his twin sister and around a day before I left my wife was also not symptom free. I asked over the previous 2 week period to please get tested. I said she should buy an antigen kit and do it from home its so convenient. I asked multiple multiple times. It never happened and on the day I turned up last Saturday she said "...oh I found an old nhs test here and did that it was negative...". Great. Except on Sunday morning I got her to do another test with me doing the mechanics of it with a positive test! Boy, was I "happy" I'm 50 and she is 40 and there I was having just turned up and spent some time (thankfully not in the same bedroom) contemplating waiting to catch this effing disease. Then once caught, waiting to see if I fit into the unlucky covid genetic category of going down hill. Yes, sadly (and selfishly?) I was terrified. To be fair to my wife, on the positive LF she immediately said she should put on a mask at home and I started wearing some high quality 3M ffp2 and later fpp3 masks. Windows were opened (its -4 here at night) but it was still a struggle to get the windows open as much as I'd like as fighting against mother's wish to keep 4 year olds warm. (We have radiator, built-in air conditioners that heat well AND underfloor heating here.....) So since that Sunday, I've been taking a LF test myself every day and so far touch wood I've been negative. (She had a confirmatory positive PCR test that showed a viral load on cycle 20 which is/was high). She has to use the whole flat to keep the kids fed and in retrospective it might have been better for her to isolate in the her room and me to cook/clean all day for kids but I'd probably get it wrong and she'd be out all the time telling me what to do so in the event I have one/two "clean rooms" - my bedroom that she doesn't and one of the kids don't go in (George is much more mobile and I let him in partly because he recovered from his "cold" 1-2 weeks ago) plus a separate bathroom that in theory she doesn't go in. That latter point about shared bathrooms made me wonder. Surely a shared kitchen is far more dangerous? What is the deal with bathrooms and why isn't it spelled out for thickies like me? I go and do my business, presumably get a bit of virus under my legs if I'm sitting down and then wash my hands. How will it enter my system? The kitchen I assume would be humming with it. Hence before eating anything (in my bedroom of course) I fill the sink with very hot soapy water and rewash myself a plate, knife etc. I've now taken to keeping bread/cheese/cold-stuff on my balcony instead of the fridge but at the start I was probably cutting from the same bread etc.... Certainly wouldn't think about eating anything she has cooked. IF things continue well for me (I should say her symptoms "peaked" on Monday and weren't much so we're really not worried much about her) I will put 90% of the reason I haven't got it so far due to my vaccine. Its already 5 months old and the same as your (AZ). She had Moderana and more recently. That and her age have put her in good stead I think. As I say I wanted to say more on that subject well after the event to avoid tempting fate! Regarding symptoms, I believe the old cough/temperature stuff is now rubbish. If you look at the Zoe Tracker you'll see the top 5 are basically cold-like symptoms. I think that is a change due to Delta. So runny nose headache etc are right at the top. One last interesting (to me) observation in all this is I _think_ that essentially the LF tests only tell you if your symptoms are Covid or not. If you have no symptoms I think you are unlikely to test positive with LF. That is because on infection, the disease starts with a handful (ok relatively small) number of viruses. They increase and increase until a few days later (5 average) your immune system kicks back and you experience symptoms. At that point, there is enough viral concentration in the body for the LF/antigen test to pick it up. So in other words the usefulness of the antigen test is solely to tell you whether your cold like symptoms are in fact a cold or Covid-19. Taking the test in the very early days is going to result in a negative as not enough viral build up. I wouldn't worry about this room or that room, if you are sharing a house you are likely to get it (if you can) but you are fully vaccinated so unlikely to get it and if you do it will be mild.
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Post by benaj on Nov 13, 2021 21:10:21 GMT
So, firstly let me say I hope and expect you to recover fairly quickly as that is by far the most likely outcome (even unvaccinated over 80s have something like 73% success rate). Next this might be a long rambling email so you or anyone else baulks at reading so much from a stranger no problem I understand, please skip to the next post. I was going to delay writing up my recent and somewhat ongoing experiences until the event was behind me not to tempt fate but having read this from a fellow forumite I feel I want to get it out of my system. My story probably is really boring to most so do skip the rest ! So last Saturday I set off to Ukraine where my wife and 2 little ones were waiting. She told me over the past few weeks, first George (4 year old at nursery) got fairly badly ill with a "cold", then his twin sister and around a day before I left my wife was also not symptom free. I asked over the previous 2 week period to please get tested. I said she should buy an antigen kit and do it from home its so convenient. I asked multiple multiple times. It never happened and on the day I turned up last Saturday she said "...oh I found an old nhs test here and did that it was negative...". Great. Except on Sunday morning I got her to do another test with me doing the mechanics of it with a positive test! Boy, was I "happy" I'm 50 and she is 40 and there I was having just turned up and spent some time (thankfully not in the same bedroom) contemplating waiting to catch this effing disease. Then once caught, waiting to see if I fit into the unlucky covid genetic category of going down hill. Yes, sadly (and selfishly?) I was terrified. To be fair to my wife, on the positive LF she immediately said she should put on a mask at home and I started wearing some high quality 3M ffp2 and later fpp3 masks. Windows were opened (its -4 here at night) but it was still a struggle to get the windows open as much as I'd like as fighting against mother's wish to keep 4 year olds warm. (We have radiator, built-in air conditioners that heat well AND underfloor heating here.....) So since that Sunday, I've been taking a LF test myself every day and so far touch wood I've been negative. (She had a confirmatory positive PCR test that showed a viral load on cycle 20 which is/was high). She has to use the whole flat to keep the kids fed and in retrospective it might have been better for her to isolate in the her room and me to cook/clean all day for kids but I'd probably get it wrong and she'd be out all the time telling me what to do so in the event I have one/two "clean rooms" - my bedroom that she doesn't and one of the kids don't go in (George is much more mobile and I let him in partly because he recovered from his "cold" 1-2 weeks ago) plus a separate bathroom that in theory she doesn't go in. That latter point about shared bathrooms made me wonder. Surely a shared kitchen is far more dangerous? What is the deal with bathrooms and why isn't it spelled out for thickies like me? I go and do my business, presumably get a bit of virus under my legs if I'm sitting down and then wash my hands. How will it enter my system? The kitchen I assume would be humming with it. Hence before eating anything (in my bedroom of course) I fill the sink with very hot soapy water and rewash myself a plate, knife etc. I've now taken to keeping bread/cheese/cold-stuff on my balcony instead of the fridge but at the start I was probably cutting from the same bread etc.... Certainly wouldn't think about eating anything she has cooked. IF things continue well for me (I should say her symptoms "peaked" on Monday and weren't much so we're really not worried much about her) I will put 90% of the reason I haven't got it so far due to my vaccine. Its already 5 months old and the same as your (AZ). She had Moderana and more recently. That and her age have put her in good stead I think. As I say I wanted to say more on that subject well after the event to avoid tempting fate! Regarding symptoms, I believe the old cough/temperature stuff is now rubbish. If you look at the Zoe Tracker you'll see the top 5 are basically cold-like symptoms. I think that is a change due to Delta. So runny nose headache etc are right at the top. One last interesting (to me) observation in all this is I _think_ that essentially the LF tests only tell you if your symptoms are Covid or not. If you have no symptoms I think you are unlikely to test positive with LF. That is because on infection, the disease starts with a handful (ok relatively small) number of viruses. They increase and increase until a few days later (5 average) your immune system kicks back and you experience symptoms. At that point, there is enough viral concentration in the body for the LF/antigen test to pick it up. So in other words the usefulness of the antigen test is solely to tell you whether your cold like symptoms are in fact a cold or Covid-19. Taking the test in the very early days is going to result in a negative as not enough viral build up. I wouldn't worry about this room or that room, if you are sharing a house you are likely to get it (if you can) but you are fully vaccinated so unlikely to get it and if you do it will be mild. www.imperial.ac.uk/news/231557/covid-vaccines-effective-household-transmission-delta/according to this study
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Post by benaj on Nov 13, 2021 21:14:53 GMT
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Post by martin44 on Nov 13, 2021 21:30:25 GMT
Sorry to hear that and wishing you well. How do you think you got it ? My best friend is terminally ill and I have been visiting him every day. It turns out that his partner's brother had caught it and I'm pretty sure that's where it came from. Unfortunately I think he's going to pass before I'm going to get a chance to say goodbye and to be honest I'm finding it really hard to deal with. But thank you for your good wishes. All the best mate.. 👍👏
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