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Post by moonraker on Nov 15, 2021 17:01:55 GMT
Oops, yes I did.
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Post by benaj on Nov 16, 2021 17:04:16 GMT
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Post by pikestaff on Nov 17, 2021 15:54:36 GMT
Fake email re digital covid-19 passport, received today. Are there lots about?
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Post by agent69 on Nov 17, 2021 16:40:07 GMT
Fake email re digital covid-19 passport, received today. Are there lots about? Always a bit of a give away if they don't address you by name.
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 17, 2021 17:30:43 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 17, 2021 19:15:23 GMT
Fake email re digital covid-19 passport, received today. Are there lots about? I sometimes worry that my 89 year old father is going to fall for one of these scams one of these days - whether over the phone or by email. But these things would be a bit more convincing if they at least got the language more 'queens english'. I just love the 'erupted all over the block'. Definitely can see the NHS using that kind of language. [which is not to overlook the 'put at a halt', and presumably also the missing 'such']
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Post by registerme on Nov 17, 2021 19:49:53 GMT
But these things would be a bit more convincing if they at least got the language more 'queens english'. Not sure about Queen's English, but I'd start with capitalisation and use an apostrophe.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 17, 2021 19:55:43 GMT
But these things would be a bit more convincing if they at least got the language more 'queens english'. The long-standing theory is that that's actually deliberate, since it helps to filter out those who are least likely to fall for the scam.
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Post by keitha on Nov 18, 2021 11:14:26 GMT
But these things would be a bit more convincing if they at least got the language more 'queens english'. Not sure about Queen's English, but I'd start with capitalisation and use an apostrophe. did you not know that correct spelling and punctuation is considered aggressive ! metro.co.uk/2020/08/24/full-stops-intimidate-young-people-seem-angry-say-linguists-13170009/#:~:text=According%20to%20linguists%2C%20the%20full%20stop%20has%20become,it%E2%80%99s%20already%20obvious%20that%20you%E2%80%99ve%20concluded%20the%20message. I must come across as angry quite a lot of the time I was talking to a friend the other day and she said her husbands business was trying to recruit a technical author, she said he'd had several applications that were basically in TXT Spk, and some of the graduates concerned couldn't see why it was an issue when they were given this as part of the feedback on why they didn't get the job.
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Post by registerme on Nov 18, 2021 12:13:27 GMT
I must come across as angry quite a lot of the time I was talking to a friend the other day and she said her husbands business was trying to recruit a technical author, she said he'd had several applications that were basically in TXT Spk, and some of the graduates concerned couldn't see why it was an issue when they were given this as part of the feedback on why they didn't get the job. If it's any consolation I wake up furious most mornings. Take your pick from a combination of Boris, Tories, COVID, Brexit, Putin, climate change, Xi and just generally getting older and grumpier. And agreed, back when I was a hiring manager, unless English was obviously not a candidate's first language, silly spelling or grammatical errors would result in their CV going straight in the shredder. I mean if they can't be bothered to get their CV right, why are they going to get anything else right? Precision and attention to detail are important. Precision and attention to detail when coding and dealing with billions of dollars are really important.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 18, 2021 13:38:38 GMT
But these things would be a bit more convincing if they at least got the language more 'queens english'. Not sure about Queen's English, but I'd start with capitalisation and use an apostrophe. Though of course that may have been deliberately written that way
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 18, 2021 13:51:24 GMT
I must come across as angry quite a lot of the time I was talking to a friend the other day and she said her husbands business was trying to recruit a technical author, she said he'd had several applications that were basically in TXT Spk, and some of the graduates concerned couldn't see why it was an issue when they were given this as part of the feedback on why they didn't get the job. If it's any consolation I wake up furious most mornings. Take your pick from a combination of Boris, Tories, COVID, Brexit, Putin, climate change, Xi and just generally getting older and grumpier. And agreed, back when I was a hiring manager, unless English was obviously not a candidate's first language, silly spelling or grammatical errors would result in their CV going straight in the shredder. I mean if they can't be bothered to get their CV right, why are they going to get anything else right? Precision and attention to detail are important. Precision and attention to detail when coding and dealing with billions of dollars are really important.Or indeed lives. Fully agree with the sentiment, and lack of attention to detail I'd posit is not a good indicator for strong analytical skills either. In addition, if you are writing software/systems specifications, attention to detail in the use of language is important in its own right. I suspect the problem may be even greater for people hiring these days, as I'm not sure much of our education system places either sufficient importance or teaching capability on accurate written communication. However, I'd like to think that sufficient awareness of, and leeway given, for issues such as dyslexia. I also think that more leeway is reasonable on [the*] like[s*] of social media: 'writing' on a mobile device with all the unpredictability of predictive text/auto completion is a bit of a nightmare. I'd also say though that it is right to recognise that language - and perhaps particularly English - should be viewed as a living, evolving thing. The 'correct' use of language is not something which should be immutable for eternity. The richness of English when compared to quite a lot of other languages has partly come about from its ability to morph and accommodate changes largely based on common usage. *Post edits, as it to prove the point...
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Post by adrianc on Nov 18, 2021 14:30:34 GMT
Not quite as straightforward as it first appears... The premise of the article is that the full stop at the end of the second version of that is perceived as more definitive than the first. It's not required on the first, because the message is complete in and of itself. Still seems like codswallop, but I can sort of see where it's coming from. And if it's quoting Prof David Crystal in support of the position, then I'll go with it. As it also says... It really is just referring to short messages.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 18, 2021 15:44:44 GMT
The premise of the article is that the full stop at the end of the second version of that is perceived as more definitive than the first. It's not required on the first, because the message is complete in and of itself. .... As it also says... It really is just referring to short messages. Just read the article: it does appear to fall into the category of being a 'copy filler' with a headline that is barely supported by the actual article. As u say, it appears to be referring to short txt msgs. My wife is a grammar Nazi, while I'm more of a neo-Nazi: but hell, some of our txt msgs don't even contain any words, let alone terminating punctuation
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Post by adrianc on Nov 18, 2021 15:46:59 GMT
...but hell, some of our txt msgs don't even contain any words, let alone terminating punctuation Eww.
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