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Post by befuddled on Feb 3, 2020 14:42:01 GMT
From LW...
So investor's interest is being diverted to prop up shield, and at some point "over the course of the year" the diverted interest will be replenished to investors accounts.
So LW, as a struggling company, are commiting to essentially paying double interest for second part of year, using the same basic financial model that got themselves in this pickle in the first place.
There would seem to be an element of money missing from the equation, where will the extra money come from to provide 8-9% to build average back to 4.5% for those brave enough to stay...
....the 5% leaving penalty has double benefit for LW, boosts the shield and makes it unattractive to leave...., time will tell if LW are able to pull if off....
Thank you for getting in contact.
Your interest rates are calculated on a lifetime basis, and we have calculated this as the return you will receive if you hold the investment for the life of the loan chunks in your portfolio. At any given time, though, we may have to adjust the rates investors receive by more or less, to ensure that the Lending Works Shield receives enough interest to cover the loan defaults that will occur.
Therefore, the interest rates will fluctuate, but they will also balance out to ensure that the return you receive is the return displayed in your account over the course of the year. As the rates have only just changed, these rates are low at the moment, which is why there is an interest shortfall.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Kind Regards,
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Post by IFISAcava on Feb 3, 2020 15:02:09 GMT
From LW... So investor's interest is being diverted to prop up shield, and at some point "over the course of the year" the diverted interest will be replenished to investors accounts. So LW, as a struggling company, are c ommiting to essentially paying double interest for second part of year, using the same basic financial model that got themselves in this pickle in the first place. There would seem to be an element of money missing from the equation, where will the extra money come from to provide 8-9% to build average back to 4.5% for those brave enough to stay... ....the 5% leaving penalty has double benefit for LW, boosts the shield and makes it unattractive to leave...., time will tell if LW are able to pull if off.... Thank you for getting in contact.
Your interest rates are calculated on a lifetime basis, and we have calculated this as the return you will receive if you hold the investment for the life of the loan chunks in your portfolio. At any given time, though, we may have to adjust the rates investors receive by more or less, to ensure that the Lending Works Shield receives enough interest to cover the loan defaults that will occur.
Therefore, the interest rates will fluctuate, but they will also balance out to ensure that the return you receive is the return displayed in your account over the course of the year. As the rates have only just changed, these rates are low at the moment, which is why there is an interest shortfall.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Kind Regards,I don't think that is the case at all, sadly - more like over the course of the year the predicted lifetime rates will average out at 5.4%. As we've had 6.5% on many of the loans for quite some time, even if rates go back up to 2 or 3% they can still say we are on course for a "predicted" 5.4% over the lifetime. And if it needs 8-9% in the last 6 months to get up to 5.4% - well that may or may not happen! It's only "predicted" after all.
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Post by befuddled on Feb 3, 2020 15:37:46 GMT
yeah that makes sense, so if you'd had a 6.5% loan for 4 years - they essentially give you no interest for the last year, to drag overall average interest rate down to 5.4%, and in theory if you try to leave they could charge you 5.4% penalty.
So for the last year LW keep/risk your capital, give no interest and make it expensive leave - nice work if you can get it...
Not sure how they rationalize that to "Fair and Simple..." as per their front page...
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Post by frankfurt13 on Feb 3, 2020 15:39:00 GMT
I don't think that is the case at all, sadly - more like over the course of the year the predicted lifetime rates will average out at 5.4%. As we've had 6.5% on many of the loans for quite some time, even if rates go back up to 2 or 3% they can still say we are on course for a "predicted" 5.4% over the lifetime. And if it needs 8-9% in the last 6 months to get up to 5.4% - well that may or may not happen! It's only "predicted" after all. That may explain the disparity in what lenders have received in Jan. If you're new and had only been receiving 6.5% for a short time, you will have less of a drop in interest to average you down to 5.4%, whereas old hands take a deeper cut to bring their average down to the new lifetime 5.4% level.
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Post by macq on Feb 3, 2020 15:40:44 GMT
there's also the line in the how the shield works section that basically says if a cohort of loan does better then expected then any excess can be used against other cohorts - only problem is i am no longer sure what expected rate is anymore!
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Post by macq on Feb 3, 2020 15:58:30 GMT
Also if the product is supposed to be simple etc according to the home page - not sure how from the shield section a new investor(or maybe even old) would understand the phrase " your investment will be diversified across all loans in each cohort rather then the specific loans allocated to your portfolio"
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Post by zlb on Feb 3, 2020 22:28:14 GMT
there's also the line in the how the shield works section that basically says if a cohort of loan does better then expected then any excess can be used against other cohorts - only problem is i am no longer sure what expected rate is anymore! I looked at last few months in flex and the rate was a bit higher than advertised for the last four months that I looked at. It's only Jan which is less, which I now understand was broadcast, although isn't clearly advertised.
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