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Post by jonno on Feb 17, 2020 17:39:42 GMT
Any idea what I can do to only commit a "non-crime love incident"? I guess that would be due to a person reporting they perceived you loved them, but the Police failed to find any evidence of it. Ah yes..........My mum tried that once
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Post by jj on Feb 17, 2020 17:39:54 GMT
Well. There is an agenda beening played out here. Not just this country but at least the western world. If you don't know what the agenda is just watch the BBC for a while to see what it is.
Reconcile the opposes & be more god-like.... Godanubis .
I (genuinely) don't know what agenda you are referring to here. Please can you explain? Well ironically I can't ! Without being labeled sexist, racist, bigot, homophobic, misogynist & many more. I think this is the point of the whole thread. You need to abide with the rules, or else.
If you can't see any agenda its probably better you don't. I see so much box ticking I don't watch TV anymore. Too much "programming" going on.
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Post by Godanubis on Feb 17, 2020 18:13:20 GMT
Things have certainly got a bit bizarre, with even Police guidelines ( PDF) saying perception rather than facts dictate their actions:
"For recording purposes, the perception of the victim, or any other person (see 1.2.4 Other person), is the defining factor in determining whether an incident is a hate incident, or in recognising the hostility element of a hate crime. The victim does not have to justify or provide evidence of their belief, and police officers or staff should not directly challenge this perception. Evidence of the hostility is not required for an incident or crime to be recorded as a hate crime or hate incident.
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If the facts do not identify any recordable crime but the victim perceived it to be a hate crime, the circumstances should be recorded as a non-crime hate incident and not a hate crime."
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Given the above it's no wonder we end up with 120,000 non-crime hate incidents reported ( Telegraph) Any idea what I can do to only commit a "non-crime love incident"? Me Too or is that the wrong thing to say
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Post by Godanubis on Feb 17, 2020 18:16:41 GMT
I (genuinely) don't know what agenda you are referring to here. Please can you explain? Well ironically I can't ! Without being labeled sexist, racist, bigot, homophobic, misogynist & many more. I think this is the point of the whole thread. You need to abide with the rules, or else.
If you can't see any agenda its probably better you don't. I see so much box ticking I don't watch TV anymore. Too much "programming" going on.
I’m afraid you need more than a tin foil hat and ear plugs these days. But if you find yourself offended you can always complain and the world must change to accommodate you.
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Post by bernythedolt on Feb 17, 2020 18:52:50 GMT
There are two short words that annoy me at the moment
Myself when someone means "me"
and the new starter to all answers
"So".... when they mean " "
That last one was good! Can I "get"... in place of "may I have..." currently grinds my gears.
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Post by keitha on Feb 17, 2020 19:44:25 GMT
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Post by trentenders on Feb 17, 2020 20:02:50 GMT
I LOATHE Political Correctness, and I KNOW there's an army of us out there. Whatever happened to the simple use and application of Common Sense? PS / EDIT: WOW, I have just watched the Peterson / Newman "Interview". She's clearly a Rabid Feminist Rottweiler who consistently fails and refuses to listen (let alone comprehend) what he's saying, constantly putting (her) words in his mouth. The part where she's stumped for a retort is gold, this video should be required watching for all, it's very fair, reasoned & informed. IMHO of course! bernythedolt
I believe JP's main argument was against the Canadian authorities trying to take away freedom of speech rights, by dictating what pronouns must be used by law for the trans community. He's certainly not against them (not that anyone in this thread has suggested he is).
The "Interview" is well worth a watch. I find a lot of the North American political commentators views fascinating, and I agree with a lot of their arguments. Not all, but a lot of them... (Ben Shapiro is also good value)
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Post by ozboy on Feb 17, 2020 20:52:04 GMT
Newman made a complete and utter mammary of herself, going in aggressively and needlessly "hard" right from the off. Peterson quietly and very politely demolished her with a nuanced performance, comprehensively exposing her for what she is.
To think she thought she could take on a Professor of Psychology from the University of Toronto and "win" is delusional; she also very quickly changed the subject so many times when she was "losing" that I lost count.
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Post by james100 on Feb 17, 2020 20:54:54 GMT
"https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/feb/14/transgender-tweet-police-acted-unlawfully police have been told following those guidelines is unlawful, comment by one officer to the man ( ex police ) who brought the complaint "we wanted to check your thinking, only 36 years late then ... Not exactly. The judgement ruled that it was the manner in which the police chose to implement the guidelines in these circumstances which constituted a violation of Mr Miller's freedom of speech. The CoP guidelines themselves were not deemed unlawful per se, but appeal direct to the Supreme Court on that specific issue was granted. The history behind the guidelines was discussed at length during the hearing (related to institutional racism unearthed by the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry) in the context of it's applicability to this case. Dr Kathleen Stock's witness statement ( here) gives detail for anyone interested in this point.
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Post by Mike on Feb 17, 2020 20:55:43 GMT
I (genuinely) don't know what agenda you are referring to here. Please can you explain? Well ironically I can't ! Without being labeled sexist, racist, bigot, homophobic, misogynist & many more. I think this is the point of the whole thread. You need to abide with the rules, or else.
Forcing everyone to think the same way is what's called diversity. Didn't you know that? Diversity got redefined at the same time as XY, XX, and everything else. I'm moving north in the summer. Fed up of these London tight-shirts who drink vegan beetroot smoothies in the safe space cafe by day but show their true colours in the kebab shop 2am Clapham high street boozed up loutishly commenting on passing women. At least in Newcastle they're consistent, and honest.
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Post by ozboy on Feb 17, 2020 20:57:53 GMT
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Post by keitha on Feb 17, 2020 22:03:48 GMT
"https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/feb/14/transgender-tweet-police-acted-unlawfully police have been told following those guidelines is unlawful, comment by one officer to the man ( ex police ) who brought the complaint "we wanted to check your thinking, only 36 years late then ... Not exactly. The judgement ruled that it was the manner in which the police chose to implement the guidelines in these circumstances which constituted a violation of Mr Miller's freedom of speech. The CoP guidelines themselves were not deemed unlawful per se, but appeal direct to the Supreme Court on that specific issue was granted. The history behind the guidelines was discussed at length during the hearing (related to institutional racism unearthed by the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry) in the context of it's applicability to this case. Dr Kathleen Stock's witness statement ( here) gives detail for anyone interested in this point. still feel police were heavy handed, Attending Mr Millers place of employment to interview him, and insisting they wanted to check his thinking
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Post by bernythedolt on Feb 17, 2020 22:18:16 GMT
Not exactly. The judgement ruled that it was the manner in which the police chose to implement the guidelines in these circumstances which constituted a violation of Mr Miller's freedom of speech. The CoP guidelines themselves were not deemed unlawful per se, but appeal direct to the Supreme Court on that specific issue was granted. The history behind the guidelines was discussed at length during the hearing (related to institutional racism unearthed by the Stephen Lawrence Inquiry) in the context of it's applicability to this case. Dr Kathleen Stock's witness statement ( here) gives detail for anyone interested in this point. still feel police were heavy handed, Attending Mr Millers place of employment to interview him, and insisting they wanted to check his thinking I feel sorry for the police, lumbered with this hate crime cobblers they could do without. The finer points of whether or not a law has been broken must be near impossible to interpret with today's backdrop. In days of old, they'd have just booted it into touch. When a High Court judge has to run to dozens of pages to establish the law and express his judgement, what chance has a simple police officer got? The PC in question went to the guy's place of work in plain clothes and left his 'business card' to call him back, so was as unobtrusive as he could be. He seemingly tried his best to avoid embarrassment. The ACC came out with less credibility, trying to force the guy to stop tweeting, even though no actual law was being broken. Overall a fascinating (and quite comical in places) judgement. "Wanting to check his thinking" was a doozy, I agree!
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Post by Godanubis on Feb 17, 2020 22:36:03 GMT
Well ironically I can't ! Without being labeled sexist, racist, bigot, homophobic, misogynist & many more. I think this is the point of the whole thread. You need to abide with the rules, or else.
Forcing everyone to think the same way is what's called diversity. Didn't you know that? Diversity got redefined at the same time as XY, XX, and everything else. I'm moving north in the summer. Fed up of these London tight-shirts who drink vegan beetroot smoothies in the safe space cafe by day but show their true colours in the kebab shop 2am Clapham high street boozed up loutishly commenting on passing women. At least in Newcastle they're consistent, and honest. Also you will be able to buy a mansion for the price of a London wheelie bin You will have to learn a whole new language. For a start northerners and us Scots have great differences in vocabulary. For instance you will find we don’t have words for Salad,vegetables, quinoa or Summer Were you to take advantage of the underground you will have to get used to people actually being friendly.
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Post by DeafEater on Feb 18, 2020 16:20:18 GMT
There are two short words that annoy me at the moment
Myself when someone means "me"
and the new starter to all answers
"So".... when they mean " "
That last one was good! Can I "get"... in place of "may I have..." currently grinds my gears. Agree with both of these and would like to add the use of "one hundred percent" when "yes" or "definitely" would suffice. Also the spurious addition of the word 'even' (as in "I don't even know") and the equally spurious use of the word "literally" when speaking figuratively. Just don't get me started on apostrophes...
Meanwhile back on topic, I'm of the age where I'm more comfortable with analogue than digital so if that makes me non-binary, I'm happy to be at the forefront of the revolution.
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