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Post by aju on Apr 21, 2020 23:23:12 GMT
As an update if anyone is interested. Zopa have informed me sales are now being done on a rationing approach instead of a queue. I have had a very small "ration" sold. Under 0.2% of the amount asked to be sold so far. But I guess that is better than 0% I had before this change , been in the now non-existent queue since March 23. Cheers W35 I've asked about this new queue thingy - we first applied our sale requests in Core and Plus on Mar 17th and it's now 5 weeks and diddly squat sold so far! Thankfully with relend being turned has borne some considerable fruit and our non p2p bank balance is the beneficiary at the moment - well Mrs Aju's to be precise. We've had a lot more success in refunds from failed flights over the past month or so.
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Post by wapping35 on Apr 22, 2020 8:04:41 GMT
Have you had the "loan sale has started email". I got those a few days before I saw the first drips of sales.. I am still on less than 2% sold so you are not missing much.
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Post by aju on Apr 22, 2020 17:29:29 GMT
Have you had the "loan sale has started email". I got those a few days before I saw the first drips of sales.. I am still on less than 2% sold so you are not missing much. No we have not had any started emails as yet, until you said about it i've been checking the current progress by just checking if its started. The last time we made sales was back in mid 2019 I'm guessing the start email is a new thing. We are only getting 1 in 3 emails when we returning funds from holding to our bank accounts as well and I've poked them a few times about the security issues of not being informed when money is removed from holding to a bank account but If they don't resolve those ones i'll be reporting it to the regulators. Did you request your sales before the 17th Mar or did you mean you requested your sale on the 23rd. I sent them an email after your note about the queue to ask how it works and also to express that we have not had a squeek for 5 weeks as of yesterday. Both our sales are of Core and Plus we are hanging on to Classic(SG covered)
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Post by criston on Apr 22, 2020 18:42:35 GMT
Have you had the "loan sale has started email". I got those a few days before I saw the first drips of sales.. I am still on less than 2% sold so you are not missing much. No we have not had any started emails as yet, until you said about it i've been checking the current progress by just checking if its started. The last time we made sales was back in mid 2019 I'm guessing the start email is a new thing. We are only getting 1 in 3 emails when we returning funds from holding to our bank accounts as well and I've poked them a few times about the security issues of not being informed when money is removed from holding to a bank account but If they don't resolve those ones i'll be reporting it to the regulators. Did you request your sales before the 17th Mar or did you mean you requested your sale on the 23rd. I sent them an email after your note about the queue to ask how it works and also to express that we have not had a squeek for 5 weeks as of yesterday. Both our sales are of Core and Plus we are hanging on to Classic(SG covered) You were only one day behind me on the 16th March, yet mine sold around a fortnight back. Something wrong there surely, unless I was the last of the lucky ones. I assume you have a box on your summary page saying 'Your Loan Sale' If not, have you simulated going through the sell process again to see if it says 'cancel loan sale' after clicking on 'understood' I still have around 20% left to go, of which around 15% (of the 20%) is unavailable to sell. I am not sure how long before I have to rejoin the queue. Thought I had seen somewhere I have 30 days from the time the first sale begins.
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Post by aju on Apr 22, 2020 18:45:46 GMT
So my sales have started today, this morning in fact, still need to check Mrs Aju, so far sold £2004 ajut over 10% of Core account.
I did not get an eMail but when I logged in got this message at the top of the summary screen After checking the Statements it seems I sold £2004 in core at an overall 4.48% MRA of £89.85 with a 1% fee of £20.04. So that cost effectively 5.5% of interest in what was a bad year too.
For reference the engine seemed to sell in blocks of loans where the lowest MRA was 3.56 and the worst was 5.26%. Not brilliant I guess dread to think what Plus will be like. The entries in my statements spanned 6 mins but thats just the entries of the loans not the sale times as such.
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Post by wapping35 on Apr 22, 2020 19:59:26 GMT
Did you request your sales before the 17th Mar or did you mean you requested your sale on the 23rd. I sent them an email after your note about the queue to ask how it works and also to express that we have not had a squeek for 5 weeks as of yesterday. Both our sales are of Core and Plus we are hanging on to Classic(SG covered) I requested all the sales on March 23 in the late afternoon. It covers everything... Classic, Plus & Core non-ISA and Core & Plus ISA. There seems to be a different process (queue) for each product also cut by ISA and non-ISA. My Classic loans sold out pretty quickly on March 30th approx 70% (nothing sold since then but it is peanuts in Classic now). Non-ISA Plus and Core have had limited sales about 1% each..(that started only a few days ago) ISA Core has sold about 7.5% and ISA Plus nothing sold yet. The average in ISA is about 5% sold. (started this week) Total sale ISA and non-ISA is approx 2%.. The MRA's actually seem lower in Plus than Core probably because Zopa already see them as higher default risk and there is no-comparable to the new higher interest rates for new loans, ie no new C-E's. That seems to be Zopa algorithm logic not mine. Whilst the MRA (average for me 4.1%) is painful only time will tell if it is a reasonable hit to take. i.e. I see my late % is now 8.1% (and rising) up from 2.5% only 3/4 weeks ago.. If that portends the increased default risk the MRA may well turn out to be a bargain....It all depends on how quickly things recover and in my opinion that is something no one knows, including Zopa's supposedly omniscient algorithm which seems to be assuming what will happen will mirror the financial crisis. Anyway good luck to all.
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Post by peertopier on Apr 28, 2020 23:48:18 GMT
I've just sold some Zopa loans in Plus ISA and Core ISA that I put into the queue a few weeks ago. I don't like Zopa that much but I feel that it has enough size to probably survive any impending P2P crisis in some form or other. All the same, I'm reducing my Zopa funds down to money that I could face losing or not having access to for a few years. My experience with Collateral and Lendy is that when things go wrong it takes a long time to access your money and the FCA approval doesn't mean much.
The most annoying thing about Zopa is their slow website.
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Post by criston on Apr 29, 2020 9:32:08 GMT
I have a sale request that has sold 72% so far, but the last sale was on 29th March. If I go through Access Funds -> Sell Loans pages to look at the progress it looks like this ( my added text in blue) So, my loan has effectively been paused for over a week now. I'm not sure whether it would be better to stop and restart the sale, with it's obvious delay consequences,or whether to give it more time. It's not a big deal for me given the small numbers, but might help the overall understanding of what's going on. Has anyone else noticed a long pause and then had their sales restart? Did you ever get the remainder sold. Has your sale been timed out or is it still showing as pending. I still have 15/20% to go myself.
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Post by Ace on Apr 29, 2020 10:38:37 GMT
I have a sale request that has sold 72% so far, but the last sale was on 29th March. If I go through Access Funds -> Sell Loans pages to look at the progress it looks like this ( my added text in blue) So, my loan has effectively been paused for over a week now. I'm not sure whether it would be better to stop and restart the sale, with it's obvious delay consequences,or whether to give it more time. It's not a big deal for me given the small numbers, but might help the overall understanding of what's going on. Has anyone else noticed a long pause and then had their sales restart? Did you ever get the remainder sold. Has your sale been timed out or is it still showing as pending. I still have 15/20% to go myself. The sale is still in progress. I'm down to 9% left now, following sales on 22nd of April and one further very small sale on 24th April. I reported some details here. It looks like I'm in some sort of processing queue, where I'm taking an occasional turn to sell.
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Post by Ace on Apr 30, 2020 16:48:11 GMT
Did you ever get the remainder sold. Has your sale been timed out or is it still showing as pending. I still have 15/20% to go myself. The sale is still in progress. I'm down to 9% left now, following sales on 22nd of April and one further very small sale on 24th April. I reported some details here. It looks like I'm in some sort of processing queue, where I'm taking an occasional turn to sell. I've just received the 'sale completed' email. Roughly 93% of request was achieved.
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Post by criston on May 12, 2020 15:42:20 GMT
Original sale requested 15/3/20
It is now 34 days after the first 85% of my loans were sold on 7/4/20.
Although hit & miss over 4 accounts, the remaining 15% have started to be sold, from yesterday 11/5/20.
I now have about 10% left, of the original sale amount requested & estimate I could end up with 3 or 4% unsalable.
Approximately 10% of the total was shielded.
All in all not too bad, compared to some other platforms.
Good luck.
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Post by aju on May 13, 2020 8:56:12 GMT
Original sale requested 15/3/20 It is now 34 days after the first 85% of my loans were sold on 7/4/20. Although hit & miss over 4 accounts, the remaining 15% have started to be sold, from yesterday 11/5/20. I now have about 10% left, of the original sale amount requested & estimate I could end up with 3 or 4% unsalable. Approximately 10% of the total was shielded. All in all not too bad, compared to some other platforms. Good luck. I'm two days behind you so that's promising, we too had a flurry a couple of weeks ago but nothing since. Most of our Plus that can be is now offloaded - still a covid easing (arrangements) are locked in. Core is much slower and had nothing since 1st flurry a month ago.
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Post by wapping35 on May 13, 2020 9:48:55 GMT
Sales for me are a consistent slow dribble.
Sale request was march 23rd and still 80% to go.. Sales have realised 15% of that the rest being normal repayments (repayments are also definitely lower due to lates/ covid repayment plans) and increasingly defaults are up especially since the start of May.
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Post by aju on May 13, 2020 11:20:40 GMT
Sales for me are a consistent slow dribble. Sale request was march 23rd and still 80% to go.. Sales have realised 15% of that the rest being normal repayments (repayments are also definitely lower due to lates/ covid repayment plans) and increasingly defaults are up especially since the start of May. Yes I've noticed that the defaults are coming in but to be honest its to be expected. It would be nice to get the loans sold to mitigate the defaults. Its too soon I think to work out the arrangement to default conversion rate I think but hopefully i'll be sold out before it gets that far. (No I don't expect it just hope for it). I reported elsewhere that Zopa, in response to an eMail I sent them, stated April lending had been £10,766,409. I assume they mean to borrowers and by definition would create some space for lenders. Thats down some 85% on the previous months lending figures if I've understood their figures.
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Post by wapping35 on May 13, 2020 11:25:22 GMT
Knowing the new lending amount is a v useful data point for the sales since Zopa have told me 70% of loans given are to lenders will be new loans.
So if £10.8m of new lending sales are 3/7ths of that £ 4.6m...ISH...
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