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Post by martin44 on Jun 20, 2020 19:45:07 GMT
Every statue has feet of clay.
Mandela had Winnie.
And judging by the amount of shoes she owned.... winnie had many feet,...
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Anubis is known as the god of death and is the oldest and most popular of ancient Egyptian deities.
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Post by Godanubis on Jun 21, 2020 20:59:03 GMT
We need a bit of perspective 14% Uk non white 8% Black. Taking the contribution to UK literature, Sience,politics etc if same proportion of the community were given a statue then it would less than 1 and there are more than that in uk.
Make all applications Gender,Age and Race excluded and give kids an email with Urls to all relavent historical bad guys.
The Egyptions enslaved all enemies. The Germans During the war. The Japanese s
The Vikings The Romans
Native american Indians enslaved other tribes as did African tribes and Borneo and nearly every continent had Slaves.
Polpot and The germans alone killed more a few years than died in 400 years of slavery link. All lives matter.
Draw a line under historical failures and move on ensuring equal treatment for all and massive punishment for racists and biggots.
Modern children have all the information about the world's past and they are not shy in using it.
So they are the future when they replace the flawed individuals in position of power things will change .
There are few dictators left and fewer empires
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Post by martin44 on Jun 21, 2020 21:11:48 GMT
We need a bit of perspective 14% Uk non white 8% Black. Taking the contribution to UK literature, Sience,politics etc if same proportion of the community were given a statue then it would less than 1 and there are more than that in uk.
Make all applications Gender,Age and Race excluded and give kids an email with Urls to all relavent historical bad guys.
The Egyptions enslaved all enemies. The Germans During the war. The Japanese s
The Vikings The Romans
Native american Indians enslaved other tribes as did African tribes and Borneo and nearly every continent had Slaves.
Polpot and The germans alone killed more a few years than died in 400 years of slavery link. All lives matter.
Draw a line under historical failures and move on ensuring equal treatment for all and massive punishment for racists and biggots.
Modern children have all the information about the world's past and they are not shy in using it.
So they are the future when they replace the flawed individuals in position of power things will change .
There are few dictators left and fewer empires
Zimbabwe comes to mind... www.reuters.com/article/us-zimbabwe-mugabe-violence/mugabes-legacy-thousands-killed-in-rain-that-washes-away-the-chaff-idUSKCN1VR18H
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Godanubis
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Anubis is known as the god of death and is the oldest and most popular of ancient Egyptian deities.
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Post by Godanubis on Jun 21, 2020 21:14:29 GMT
We need a bit of perspective 14% Uk non white 8% Black. Taking the contribution to UK literature, Sience,politics etc if same proportion of the community were given a statue then it would less than 1 and there are more than that in uk.
Make all applications Gender,Age and Race excluded and give kids an email with Urls to all relavent historical bad guys.
The Egyptions enslaved all enemies. The Germans During the war. The Japanese s
The Vikings The Romans
Native american Indians enslaved other tribes as did African tribes and Borneo and nearly every continent had Slaves.
Polpot and The germans alone killed more a few years than died in 400 years of slavery link. All lives matter.
Draw a line under historical failures and move on ensuring equal treatment for all and massive punishment for racists and biggots.
Modern children have all the information about the world's past and they are not shy in using it.
So they are the future when they replace the flawed individuals in position of power things will change .
There are few dictators left and fewer empires
Zimbabwe comes to mind... www.reuters.com/article/us-zimbabwe-mugabe-violence/mugabes-legacy-thousands-killed-in-rain-that-washes-away-the-chaff-idUSKCN1VR18HPerfect example of bad guys in charge no matter what colour. Bet there are a good few Robert Mugabe statues. Boko Haram currently enslave thousands in africa. Protesting is the Luxury of the democratic nations
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Post by martin44 on Jun 21, 2020 21:17:48 GMT
Maybe this is wrong..... should we not leave all statues up, and educate everyone in schools what their history was, and what their legacy was?
edit.... Thinking a little longer on this .... the legacy of many slave traders is indeed.... today.... benefiting all.... thinking along the lines of educational institutions.
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Post by gravitykillz on Jun 21, 2020 21:37:41 GMT
Maybe this is wrong..... should we not leave all statues up, and educate everyone in schools what their history was, and what their legacy was? edit.... Thinking a little longer on this .... the legacy of many slave traders is indeed.... today.... benefiting all.... thinking along the lines of educational institutions. That is part of the issue. The better the education system gets (history). The more young people realise what the statues represent. Compounded with the fact that most people are now unemployed or furloughed or off college or university. They lack purpose at the moment and will join any cause that presses their buttons in the right way.I personally have no issue with the statues.
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Post by martin44 on Jun 21, 2020 21:49:46 GMT
Maybe this is wrong..... should we not leave all statues up, and educate everyone in schools what their history was, and what their legacy was? edit.... Thinking a little longer on this .... the legacy of many slave traders is indeed.... today.... benefiting all.... thinking along the lines of educational institutions. That is part of the issue. The better the education system gets (history). The more young people realise what the statues represent. Compounded with the fact that most people are now unemployed or furloughed or off college or university. They lack purpose at the moment and will join any cause that presses their buttons in the right way.I personally have no issue with the statues. My bold... Agreed.. like it or not.. this IS a left wing political agenda... however... i cannot see how in the long term it will benefit anyone. i can only see division (was an edit)
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Post by martin44 on Jun 22, 2020 21:28:12 GMT
I hope someone organises a march in london in the coming days to protest about the death of the guys in the reading park.... horrific. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53142464
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