JamesFrance
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Post by JamesFrance on May 20, 2022 10:37:52 GMT
All rather pointless and boring, he just goes on and on and on attacking this country to justify the EU performance.
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Post by captainconfident on May 20, 2022 11:40:31 GMT
Bendy passports and blue bananas. Lowest growth and highest inflation of all developed economies. Speaks to the extra factor, the Brexit red tape choking off trade, and a government that doesn't dare to implement Brexit fully because it would be even more catastrophically strangling. But the time will come when the complaints to the WTO from other 3rd countries whose goods ARE subject to inward inspection like for instance, the US, whose goods are therefore put at a disadvantage to those of the EU, result in fines. Can't go on covering up the consequences of Brexit forever. Raphael Behr is for me the best writer on Brexit issues. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/17/northern-ireland-protocol-brexit-tories-eu
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on May 21, 2022 14:21:31 GMT
All rather pointless and boring, he just goes on and on and on attacking this country to justify the EU performance. You mean he goes on and on highlighting this country's many total failures and lies?
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registerme
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Post by registerme on Jun 3, 2022 9:33:00 GMT
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 3, 2022 11:06:52 GMT
Contains incredibly important news for those of us who like to look at the little markings stamped on the side of the glass while drinking. What will a UKCA mark look like? I used to ship beer glasses before Brexit. They are made in France and Turkey. "bringing back the crown mark" - These glasses originated CE stamped, and after the crown marking was abolished, that was all that was required. But the Gov. is talking about bringing back crown stamping. This is not just a nice image stamped on during manufacture, but required the imported glasses to be delivered to a government run warehouse, where the glasses were unpacked, theoretically checked to make sure they conformed to imperial measure, then run through a machine which stamped the crown on. Obviously this was bonkers and that is why it was eventually scrapped. But apparently, symbolic of regained sovereignty even though this was done well into the 2000's while we were still in the EU, re-introducing crown stamping is actually being proposed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 11:17:16 GMT
If you really want to go back to the 1980s then the crown on the glass is very important.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jun 3, 2022 11:21:25 GMT
If you really want to go back to the 1980s then the crown on the glass is very important. Shame KGBeebies didn't bother to get one printed onto the Farridge pint pots, eh? gbnews.store/products/gbn-farage-talking-pints-pint-glass(Is that Eurofizz, rather than a proper British ale?) There was nothing ever stopping anybody from printing a crown logo onto one, of course. It just wouldn't have meant anything...
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 3, 2022 15:27:16 GMT
I hear on The World at One that the crown mark on the pint glass might be reintroduced as a meaningless gesture, rather than for the reason it was previously there i.e. that the volume had been checked by the Crown Weights and Measures Dept. A lovely cost-free win for tradition. Meanwhile Rome burns.. www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/uk-and-global-economy-after-brexitGoood news for Brexit fans, immigration is down, but that is part of the supply side squeeze that is sending inflation higher, evidence of worker shortage being quite obvious in critical sectors.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jun 3, 2022 15:30:02 GMT
I hear on The World at One that the crown mark on the pint glass might be reintroduced as a meaningless gesture, rather than for the reason it was previously there i.e. that the volume had been checked by the Crown Weights and Measures Dept. It could always have been printed on a glass as a meaningless icon, so that would be no change at all.
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Jun 3, 2022 16:04:52 GMT
To me, the opinions Remainers have of what a typical Leaver looks like illustrates well what the problem always was.
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 3, 2022 16:56:45 GMT
To me, the opinions Remainers have of what a typical Leaver looks like illustrates well what the problem always was. The problem of Brexit was whether you understood economics or not. If you didn't, then you could be free to let your imagination reign over a Britain free to set its own rules, and manufacture nuclear powered toasters without the need to agree that with 27 other nations.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jun 4, 2022 9:38:18 GMT
To me, the opinions Remainers have of what a typical Leaver looks like illustrates well what the problem always was. You're absolutely right. Nobody ever knew what "Leave" was. What the campaigning told us before the vote was contradictory, unfeasible, and in many instances simply fundamentally inaccurate. Any attempts to point this out got shouted down as "project fear", however. One thing we now know is that many, MANY leavers say what we've got is not what they wanted... and much of that "project fear" has proven prophetic.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jun 4, 2022 10:15:17 GMT
To me, the opinions Remainers have of what a typical Leaver looks like illustrates well what the problem always was. I voted leave, but for me one of the issues is many leave voters saw it as a fight back against foreigners taking their jobs, the fact that they wouldn't take a job fruit picking or picking and processing veg etc was irrelevant. To be honest and some will see this as a very right wing view,I would say that after a year or whatever on benefits then people should be guided into jobs it is terrible that you have places with 10% unemployment yet in those same areas care home owners etc can't get staff. I have neighbours where 3 generations of the family are unemployed. We have "clusters " that are bad for instance where to get to the nearest town to work it would be a 15-20 minute walk to a bus stop then an hour or more to get there as the bus goes via all the bigger villages. These places tend to have unemployment rates of 15% or more. But should they be expected to leave the area they have lived in all their lives ? Of course where I live we have proposals for 2 wind farms. the developers are saying this will bring jobs to the area Making towers or blades or turbines I think not more likely working on the tracks or the concrete pads for the cranes etc, and maybe as security once site operational.
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adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jun 4, 2022 11:58:57 GMT
To be honest and some will see this as a very right wing view, I would say that after a year or whatever on benefits then people should be guided into jobs it is terrible that you have places with 10% unemployment yet in those same areas care home owners etc can't get staff. Umm, isn't that pretty much exactly the way it already works, and has done for years? Without even waiting for the year... Don't apply to jobs that are available? Sanctioned, lose JSA. www.gov.uk/government/publications/jobseekers-allowance-sanctions-leaflet/jobseekers-allowance-sanctions-how-to-keep-your-benefit-payment#what-you-must-do-to-keep-your-benefit-paymentShould they then complain when people who ARE prepared to <checks notes> "get on their bike and look for work" get jobs and they don't? Or does a willingness to do so change from a positive to a negative as soon as an international border is involved? Of course, since the high-unemployment area you're referring to is within easy public transport commuting distance of the thriving regional capital, it's a bit of a moot point. Nobody needs to move. Indeed, many of the employed people in the area already do that commute.
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Post by agent69 on Jun 4, 2022 12:13:56 GMT
Should they then complain when people who ARE prepared to <checks notes> "get on their bike and look for work" get jobs and they don't?
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