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Post by captainconfident on May 26, 2023 10:09:55 GMT
registerme you can dangle such carrots in front of me, but I have given up discussing it.
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Post by martin44 on May 26, 2023 19:44:13 GMT
Annette Dittert, ARD German TV. Chris Lockwood, Europe Editor, The Economist. Gotta love them.
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Post by registerme on Jun 23, 2023 9:40:53 GMT
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Post by registerme on Jun 23, 2023 9:54:33 GMT
These aged well:-
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Post by Steerpike on Jun 23, 2023 10:47:59 GMT
EU Regulatory Scrutiny Board "lacks democratic legitimacy, operates largely in secret, and recently rejected a request for declarations of interests because it would infringe their privacy".
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Post by registerme on Jun 23, 2023 11:03:37 GMT
EU Regulatory Scrutiny Board "lacks democratic legitimacy, operates largely in secret, and recently rejected a request for declarations of interests because it would infringe their privacy". Nobody's pretending the EU is perfect.
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Post by michaelc on Jun 23, 2023 12:21:54 GMT
EU Regulatory Scrutiny Board "lacks democratic legitimacy, operates largely in secret, and recently rejected a request for declarations of interests because it would infringe their privacy". Nobody's pretending the EU is perfect. But for many that is one of the big issues. For me its second on the list but I'm sure you would agree almost any organisation becomes harder to run efficiently the larger it is. Through into the mix 24 official languages and 27 nation decision makers and its _really_ hard to do anything well. I am actually sad we've left despite voting leave. If only the EU had remained a looser collection of neighbours we'd still be in. It became too big - almost nation like and becoming more so. Of course the immediate affects are being felt by better educated people like you and I who are also more likely to travel to Europe more frequently. Frictionless it ain't.
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 23, 2023 12:42:16 GMT
It sure is likely to become a 'looser collection of neighbours' in future, when Le Pen takes over in France and countries like Spain lurch right.
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Post by james100 on Jun 23, 2023 13:08:19 GMT
...and this one really did.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jun 23, 2023 14:55:25 GMT
Nobody's pretending the EU is perfect. [...] Of course the immediate affects are being felt by better educated people like you and I who are also more likely to travel to Europe more frequently. Frictionless it ain't. How are you finding so? For the past 40-odd years, we've holidayed in Europe every year, bar the two covid years, often twice a year, and I'm writing from France right now. Have to say this year for us was just as frictionless as last year and every year previous. The only difference we've noted, and it's entirely trivial, is we can no longer bring dairy or meat products over in the car and we are more restricted in the alcohol limits going home. Other than that, it's very much just business as usual. Oh, and we've had to substitute the car's GB sticker with a UK sticker for our sins!
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Post by Steerpike on Jun 23, 2023 15:44:32 GMT
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Post by captainconfident on Jun 23, 2023 15:50:27 GMT
[...] Of course the immediate affects are being felt by better educated people like you and I who are also more likely to travel to Europe more frequently. Frictionless it ain't. How are you finding so? For the past 40-odd years, we've holidayed in Europe every year, bar the two covid years, often twice a year, and I'm writing from France right now. Have to say this year for us was just as frictionless as last year and every year previous. The only difference we've noted, and it's entirely trivial, is we can no longer bring dairy or meat products over in the car and we are more restricted in the alcohol limits going home. Other than that, it's very much just business as usual. Oh, and we've had to substitute the car's GB sticker with a UK sticker for our sins! As if hindrance or the lack of to tourist traffic is the only place to look for "Brexit friction".
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Post by michaelc on Jun 23, 2023 16:30:22 GMT
[...] Of course the immediate affects are being felt by better educated people like you and I who are also more likely to travel to Europe more frequently. Frictionless it ain't. How are you finding so? For the past 40-odd years, we've holidayed in Europe every year, bar the two covid years, often twice a year, and I'm writing from France right now. Have to say this year for us was just as frictionless as last year and every year previous. The only difference we've noted, and it's entirely trivial, is we can no longer bring dairy or meat products over in the car and we are more restricted in the alcohol limits going home. Other than that, it's very much just business as usual. Oh, and we've had to substitute the car's GB sticker with a UK sticker for our sins! When flying to poland or slavakia I always get asked "what is the purpose of your visit" and sometimes a few follow on questions. Then a rummage around in my passport followed by a stamp. Driving out of Ukraine into Poland just before the war, it took around 3 hours for EU citizens and 8 hours for everyone else. When I went, after waiting for 8 hours I got to the end of the line only to be told by the polish guard, "UK....you need to join the EU queue" (!!!). THankfully that was the final queue at the end of quite an ordeal so only another hour or so to wait. Of course if I did that again I'd have no idea which queue to join. From memory many airports in Europe also have faster EU only queues although the differences are nowhere near as stark as at the land borders with Ukraine!
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Post by bernythedolt on Jun 23, 2023 16:41:24 GMT
How are you finding so? For the past 40-odd years, we've holidayed in Europe every year, bar the two covid years, often twice a year, and I'm writing from France right now. Have to say this year for us was just as frictionless as last year and every year previous. The only difference we've noted, and it's entirely trivial, is we can no longer bring dairy or meat products over in the car and we are more restricted in the alcohol limits going home. Other than that, it's very much just business as usual. Oh, and we've had to substitute the car's GB sticker with a UK sticker for our sins! As if hindrance or the lack of to tourist traffic is the only place to look for "Brexit friction". Ouch, cheap shot - I'm on holiday, so you get that one for free!  As you know, I was addressing michaelc's specific comment concerning the "friction" of frequent travelling to Europe, which doesn't match my own personal experience, hence my question to him.
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Post by bernythedolt on Jun 23, 2023 16:47:11 GMT
How are you finding so? For the past 40-odd years, we've holidayed in Europe every year, bar the two covid years, often twice a year, and I'm writing from France right now. Have to say this year for us was just as frictionless as last year and every year previous. The only difference we've noted, and it's entirely trivial, is we can no longer bring dairy or meat products over in the car and we are more restricted in the alcohol limits going home. Other than that, it's very much just business as usual. Oh, and we've had to substitute the car's GB sticker with a UK sticker for our sins! When flying to poland or slavakia I always get asked "what is the purpose of your visit" and sometimes a few follow on questions. Then a rummage around in my passport followed by a stamp. Driving out of Ukraine into Poland just before the war, it took around 3 hours for EU citizens and 8 hours for everyone else. When I went, after waiting for 8 hours I got to the end of the line only to be told by the polish guard, "UK....you need to join the EU queue" (!!!). THankfully that was the final queue at the end of quite an ordeal so only another hour or so to wait. Of course if I did that again I'd have no idea which queue to join. From memory many airports in Europe also have faster EU only queues although the differences are nowhere near as stark as at the land borders with Ukraine! Poland/Slovakia - quite trivial matters then. Ukraine border - exodus hardly representative of general European travel, to be fair, in the build up to a war.
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