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Post by michaelc on Dec 9, 2020 16:47:43 GMT
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Post by Greenwood2 on Dec 9, 2020 16:55:08 GMT
Well you could say that's Karma too. The sort of person that voted for Brexit is perhaps the kind of person less likely to eat Brie or Camembert in the first place. A 40% increase in the cost of Roquefort - thats really going to upset the red wall constituents. You can get Britsh 'Brie' and 'Camembert', not sure about a British equivalent to Roquefort, have to splash out on that one.
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Post by mrk on Dec 9, 2020 17:00:18 GMT
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Post by registerme on Dec 9, 2020 17:03:13 GMT
Well you could say that's Karma too. The sort of person that voted for Brexit is perhaps the kind of person less likely to eat Brie or Camembert in the first place. A 40% increase in the cost of Roquefort - thats really going to upset the red wall constituents. How about the 100,000 tonnes of cheddar we imported from Ireland in 2018?
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Post by james100 on Dec 9, 2020 17:43:42 GMT
So what do people mke of tonight's meeting. Is it the last supper, or the amuse-bouche? Boris is pretty experienced at this. A few few glasses of wine then back to his hotel room. Then nine months later, the happy event. Churchill be damned! Our man's got much more form in this sort of diplomatic relations. No. Maybe they will chat economics, given she studied at the London School of Economics. Or the pandemic, given she is a qualified doctor. Perhaps she could give him some tips on becoming tri-lingual in modern languages. How to manage a successful political career could also be on the table. She could teach him how to count kids (having 7 herself). Failing that, hair maintenance. Lots going on which is great, because I doubt he's read the relevant Brexit documents yet.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 9, 2020 17:59:06 GMT
Well you could say that's Karma too. The sort of person that voted for Brexit is perhaps the kind of person less likely to eat Brie or Camembert in the first place. A 40% increase in the cost of Roquefort - thats really going to upset the red wall constituents. How about the 100,000 tonnes of cheddar we imported from Ireland in 2018? Too mild.
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Post by adrianc on Dec 9, 2020 19:49:03 GMT
not sure about a British equivalent to Roquefort ...Stilton...? (although I'm going to put a vote in for Perl Las)
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Post by dan1 on Dec 9, 2020 19:50:27 GMT
So what do people mke of tonight's meeting. Is it the last supper, or the amuse-bouche? Fish supper for sure, no?
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Post by agent69 on Dec 9, 2020 21:53:39 GMT
So what do people mke of tonight's meeting. Is it the last supper, or the amuse-bouche? Fish supper for sure, no?
But, it is the moment we have all been waiting for - or at least all of the political nerds among us - tonight's menu has been published!
For starters, the pair were treated to a pumpkin soup and those all important scallops.
Main is steamed turbot and mashed potatoes, with wasabi and vegetables.
And dessert is Pavlova with exotic fruit and coconut sorbet.
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Post by adrianc on Dec 10, 2020 10:05:44 GMT
Fish supper for sure, no?
But, it is the moment we have all been waiting for - or at least all of the political nerds among us - tonight's menu has been published!
For starters, the pair were treated to a pumpkin soup and those all important scallops.
Main is steamed turbot and mashed potatoes, with wasabi and vegetables.
And dessert is Pavlova with exotic fruit and coconut sorbet.
Yep, fish supper. Something as delicious and delicate as turbot, paired with the tastebud-steamroller of wasabi? NO.
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Post by captainconfident on Dec 10, 2020 10:39:12 GMT
Pure sovereignty is a nonsensical concept in the real world. The only country that approximates to the ideal is North Korea whose regime’s control over its borders is near-absolute and whose freedom to abuse its population and threaten others is unfettered. But that isn’t, I think, what the Brexiteers in government mean; they believe that Britain can secure trade deals with other governments without conceding control. But that is a myth. All agreements, bilateral or multilateral, involve a surrender of sovereignty.
A preferential agreement with the US would involve some combination of: accepting American food and animal welfare standards; desisting from taxing or otherwise penalising US companies; or doing nothing to damage the interests of the Republic of Ireland. An agreement with China would certainly involve accepting the need to desist from public criticism or discriminating against Chinese companies. The extent to which national sovereignty has to be surrendered in each case depends not on high principle but on relative power. As an isolated, middle-sized, country, Britain can no doubt secure highly advantageous deals with the Faroe Islands or North Macedonia but is less well-placed to call the shots with the USA, China or the EU. ..
Successful political systems have a combination of priests who pronounce doctrine and principle and plumbers who solve practical problems. Yet all pragmatism and good sense seems to be sacrificed at the altar of “sovereignty” we probably never had, and certainly cannot regain. It is the unfortunate fate of the United Kingdom that Brexit negotiations are in the hands of squabbling, intolerant, priests and that there are no good, competent, plumbers when we need them.
Vince Cable 9/12/20
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Post by mrk on Dec 10, 2020 12:13:35 GMT
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Post by wiseclerk on Dec 10, 2020 12:28:45 GMT
Not logistics, but for finance London seems less and less attractive
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 12:32:38 GMT
Not logistics, but for finance London seems less and less attractive All these lovely gifts for the EU. Brexiteers sure are a generous bunch
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Post by mrk on Dec 10, 2020 14:23:18 GMT
Not logistics, but for finance London seems less and less attractive
If those in power in the UK were not such little islanders playing to the ERG's tune, then you would have thought they would have taken a list of industries and sorted it in order of priority.
Having sorted it in order of priority, you would have thought they would have put the damn 0.1% GDP fish to one side and put some real effort into the financial sector. "[Fishing's] annual contribution to Britain’s economy is less than that of the fashionable London department store Harrods", as this article in The New York Times puts it.
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