michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Mar 4, 2023 13:33:14 GMT
The issue is terrible infrastructure.Last week I was admonished for cycling on a path, not a pavement. The local town council shows the path as a cycle route, the local city council map shows it as a cycle path, except for about 10 metres of it where it is "bikewalk". There is no signage. I absolutely understand the confusion in the mind of person who remonstrated with me ( and jumped in my way as I gently rode by and had used my bell to warn of my approach). The path is black tarmac, no signage. I've asked "planning" why no signage and they claim the cost would be £2000-4000 to hit UK standards. I now believe that LTN 1/20 is not fit for purpose and a better but simpler standard needs to be set up. After 12 years as acting as a cycling advocate for Cycling UK I believe the UK is broken. I think you're being a bit unkind there. It's more a case of not being able to fit a round peg into a square hole.
40 years ago cars used the road and pedestrians stayed on the footpath. That worked fine while there weren't a lot of cyclists around, but then somebody thought it would be good for the environemnt and our health to cycle more. At most locations there's no spare space to accommodate a segregated cycle lane, so they either go on the road (and fight it out with motorists) or on the pavement (and upset pedestrians).
If you want to see a proper cycle route come to Devon where money was no object (courtesy of our friends in the EU). It's amazing what you can get for£4m.
Bloody ugly though.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 4, 2023 14:15:11 GMT
.... Some posters there have made comparisons to the Charlie Alliston case in which a young man got an 18-month sentence for reckless cycling that killed a woman. I see that he was cleared of manslaughter but found guilty of "wanton/furious driving". So we know he was charged with manslaughter but the jury cleared him of that: we of course don't know why. On the facts that we are aware of, it would seem reasonable if he had been found guilty, and I remember being somewhat surprised at the time that he got off of that charge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 16:06:27 GMT
Lovely example of why cyclists don't ride close to cars in what are laughly called cycle lanes
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michaelc
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Post by michaelc on Mar 4, 2023 16:14:24 GMT
Lovely example of why cyclists don't ride close to cars in what are laughly called cycle lanes
Not everyone reading this thread would want to see that. You should probably add a warning to your link.
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Post by agent69 on Mar 4, 2023 16:37:07 GMT
I think you're being a bit unkind there. It's more a case of not being able to fit a round peg into a square hole.
40 years ago cars used the road and pedestrians stayed on the footpath. That worked fine while there weren't a lot of cyclists around, but then somebody thought it would be good for the environemnt and our health to cycle more. At most locations there's no spare space to accommodate a segregated cycle lane, so they either go on the road (and fight it out with motorists) or on the pavement (and upset pedestrians).
If you want to see a proper cycle route come to Devon where money was no object (courtesy of our friends in the EU). It's amazing what you can get for£4m.
Bloody ugly though. The company I worked for at the time tendered for the contract, but were unsuccessful. The thing that sticks in my mind is that there was an environmental report, which included details of the otters that inhabited the river at the bottom of the valley. There was a plan showing where they had found Otter spraint, which at one location was described as being particularly large and sticky.
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 4, 2023 16:42:50 GMT
Lovely example of why cyclists don't ride close to cars in what are laughly called cycle lanes
this is definitely why cyclists shouldn't pass close to stationary vehicles. "A door and a bit more..." is the mantra (passing width). FWIW, I've seen that clip before and there was some reasonable discussion that particular clip may have been edited/photoshopped/staged. I can't remember the reasoning for that, although the fact that the person in question pulls himself out from under the vehicle is a bit suspect. Nonetheless, cyclists being knocked off by a vehicle door being opened on them is one of the main causes of serious accident / injury for cyclists.
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Post by pikestaff on Mar 4, 2023 17:02:33 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 4, 2023 18:46:18 GMT
I try to remember to tell kids on courses about the Dutch Reach, in the vain hope they'll tell their parents/carers when they get home. But I very much doubt they ever remember.
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Post by bernythedolt on Mar 5, 2023 2:26:55 GMT
It's more aspiration than legal requirement, AIUI, but seems a sensible initiative. Anything which makes drivers more aware of their danger to cyclists and motorcyclists is highly welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2023 14:55:25 GMT
It's more aspiration than legal requirement, AIUI, but seems a sensible initiative. Anything which makes drivers more aware of their danger to cyclists and motorcyclists is highly welcome. Worth noting that "dooring" is itself illegal. Using a Dutch reach is just one way of avoiding committing a crime
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Post by james100 on Mar 6, 2023 7:23:20 GMT
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Post by agent69 on Mar 6, 2023 8:57:46 GMT
Laugh, I could have cried
People in Thailand will observe the Buddhist religious day Makha Bucha on Monday (March 6), which also brings a 24 hour ban on the sale of alcohol. One of the most important days in the Buddhist calendar, the sale of alcohol is prohibited at all venues, including restaurants, bars, pubs, hotels, convenience stores and supermarkets.
Wish somebody had told me this yesterday and I could have got a few cans in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 9:32:00 GMT
here we go again, entitled millionaire moans for special benefits
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Post by bracknellboy on Mar 6, 2023 11:10:21 GMT
Former Hertforshire woman becomes new head of NASA
Lovely bit in there about how she was in effect living her father's dream. Also contained the phrase, said with entirely a straight face I believe: "Dr Fox said her parents were "completely over the moon" at her new role."
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Post by keitha on Mar 6, 2023 16:38:22 GMT
here we go again, entitled millionaire moans for special benefits
Interesting cos I thought you couldn't get into Australia without being vaccinated
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