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Post by registerme on Apr 30, 2024 16:03:20 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Apr 30, 2024 16:23:30 GMT
Not sure I get it. UK could send a small number of migrants to Africa. That would put at risk anyone who comes here and thus make the UK unsafe. Their plight and the total lack of understanding of what the issue is amongst the liberal fraternity is at the heart of the problem.
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Post by ilmoro on Apr 30, 2024 16:38:42 GMT
Not sure I get it. UK could send a small number of migrants to Africa. That would put at risk anyone who comes here and thus make the UK unsafe. Their plight and the total lack of understanding of what the issue is amongst the liberal fraternity is at the heart of the problem. It did, until Ireland came up with the cunning plan to change the law to declare the UK safe ... surely you can see the irony.
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Post by ilmoro on Apr 30, 2024 16:39:15 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Apr 30, 2024 18:13:21 GMT
Not sure I get it. UK could send a small number of migrants to Africa. That would put at risk anyone who comes here and thus make the UK unsafe. Their plight and the total lack of understanding of what the issue is amongst the liberal fraternity is at the heart of the problem. It did, until Ireland came up with the cunning plan to change the law to declare the UK safe ... surely you can see the irony. Well they are chain linked I suppose. We declare Rwanda safe and they declare us safe. I dunno sense of humour failure
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Post by Greenwood2 on May 1, 2024 6:28:11 GMT
It did, until Ireland came up with the cunning plan to change the law to declare the UK safe ... surely you can see the irony. Well they are chain linked I suppose. We declare Rwanda safe and they declare us safe. I dunno sense of humour failure Ireland were taking the high ground by declaring the UK unsafe because of the Rwanda policy, until they realised they couldn't then return (their growing numbers of) migrants from the UK to the UK because it was unsafe. So they are back tracking to say the UK is safe so they can return migrants. But the UK is saying they won't accept migrants returned from the EU in this case Ireland because the EU in this case France won't accept migrants returned from the UK. You couldn't make it up!
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Post by adrianc on May 1, 2024 9:54:47 GMT
Somebody has been sent to Rwanda! Oh, wait a sec. Not under the much-vaunted deal - but under the pre-existing "voluntary return" scheme that 3,000 people used last year. www.gov.uk/return-home-voluntarilyA scheme that was introduced in 2006 (but was £2,000 at the time - so it's failed to keep pace with inflation.) www.theguardian.com/society/2006/jan/13/asylum.politicsThe hyped deal sees people being sent before their claims have been processed. This person's claim had been processed and denied, but their home country (not announced) is clearly not safe for them to be sent to, else they'd have been deported - like 19,000 people last year whose claims were rejected...
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Post by james100 on May 1, 2024 11:34:15 GMT
Somebody has been sent to Rwanda! Oh, wait a sec. Not under the much-vaunted deal - but under the pre-existing "voluntary return" scheme that 3,000 people used last year. www.gov.uk/return-home-voluntarilyA scheme that was introduced in 2006 (but was £2,000 at the time - so it's failed to keep pace with inflation.) www.theguardian.com/society/2006/jan/13/asylum.politicsThe hyped deal sees people being sent before their claims have been processed. This person's claim had been processed and denied, but their home country (not announced) is clearly not safe for them to be sent to, else they'd have been deported - like 19,000 people last year whose claims were rejected... Sudan, I think. But, yes, not really the point and also he apparently didn't come over by boat so...I think most people if quizzed about the Rwanda policy would still be a bit clueless about the profiles covered. Deliberately cultivated or deliberately clueless or both. There appears to be no understanding/incorporation of well-documented learnings and benchmarks from the Stop The Boats policy of Australia whatsoever. Let's just take a snappy slogan to divert attention from inadequate basics (national id, processing time), disregard for thinking through international policy and blah blah 'Let's Take Back Control'. Yes there's clearly an issue but no need for the increasingly dehumanizing language used to describe people making these trips in the first place. I cannot imagine what life must be like to choose sleeping in a tent outside a Dublin processing centre as the 'best option', largely due to geographic bad luck at birth, and be vilified for it.
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Post by adrianc on May 1, 2024 12:22:01 GMT
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Post by agent69 on May 1, 2024 18:13:22 GMT
Looks like his politics are about as flaky as his bowling was
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Post by captainconfident on May 1, 2024 20:38:20 GMT
Looks like his politics are about as flaky as his bowling was
Thanks, that really is an amusing link. Looking forward to more interviews with Monty, comedy gold!
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Post by adrianc on May 2, 2024 7:54:51 GMT
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Post by benaj on May 2, 2024 8:12:37 GMT
I don’t even know what theories they are promoting.
Anyway I do like the concept of 15 minute city. I had a very enjoy stay in Belgium last weekend. It’s all about location, location, location. Easy access to everything from international transport, nice food and drinks, place of worship, shops and entertainment. What a good idea. I walked most of the time to get to places I want during my stay.
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Post by adrianc on May 2, 2024 8:43:40 GMT
Anyway I do like the concept of 15 minute city. I had a very enjoy stay in Belgium last weekend. It’s all about location, location, location. Easy access to everything from international transport, nice food and drinks, place of worship, shops and entertainment. What a good idea. I walked most of the time to get to places I want during my stay. No, no, no. It's the WEF and Soros and *them* (unspecified) trying to control you and stop you moving around as you wish and generally, umm, something. (But if you ask what's in it for them? <tumbleweed>) You'd almost think some people were fond of out-of-town retail parks.
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Post by captainconfident on May 2, 2024 10:13:44 GMT
I don’t even know what theories they are promoting. Anyway I do like the concept of 15 minute city. I had a very enjoy stay in Belgium last weekend. It’s all about location, location, location. Easy access to everything from international transport, nice food and drinks, place of worship, shops and entertainment. What a good idea. I walked most of the time to get to places I want during my stay. Along with all other Flemings, we think of our country as a shambles. You don't mean to say something has been efficient for once? We're in the shadow of Netherlands where everything works, always conscious of being in the shade. Anyway, isn't the 15 minute city one of these issues that has been politicised? A woke project to take away our cars? Some objection, maybe from the US where everything is political.
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