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Post by toffeeboy on Dec 2, 2024 11:22:08 GMT
Would a smooth Mars Bar not attract a premium on ebay You would think so I wonder how many smooth ones are produced and get stopped by quality control. I assume the staff get to eat those ones.
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Post by michaelc on Dec 2, 2024 18:45:59 GMT
Would a smooth Mars Bar not attract a premium on ebay You would think so I wonder how many smooth ones are produced and get stopped by quality control. I assume the staff get to eat those ones. Well, you're the expert...
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Post by michaelc on Dec 3, 2024 17:40:18 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. I'd like to know more technical detail. How long could a drive keep its data? And exactly how would their search not be a needle in a haystack as the chap's lawyer states? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77jx4d5748o
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Post by keitha on Dec 3, 2024 18:38:27 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. I'd like to know more technical detail. How long could a drive keep its data? And exactly how would their search not be a needle in a haystack as the chap's lawyer states? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77jx4d5748oLOL Capita wont be impressed that he's wearing a capita logo'd fleece in latest photos ( I assume he works for them ) they claim they have it down to 100,000 tons of material ( ie the material dumped 6 months either side of the date he dumped it ) the "investors" claim they can find the drive as it passes a scanner using AI, I hope the judge says "if you took it to the tip, at the point at which the material was deposited it becomes council property." even if he does win and get permission to excavate an area I've said and will say it again it's possible the drive was treated as scrap metal and has been melted It's possible the drive was found by someone and reformatted and reused It's likely if the drive is there it is damaged, I would suggest after multiple years buried it is very likely the disk itself is warped or even shattered I would say the chances of it being recoverable are several thousand to 1 If I was an investor in this recovery plan I'd be looking at taking a very large chunk ( at least 80-90% ) of any return as it's me taking most of the risk Now lets say that they don't find it, do they rescan ie process the material again, do they go back to court for permission to excavate a bigger area
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Post by agent69 on Dec 3, 2024 18:56:00 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. I'd like to know more technical detail. How long could a drive keep its data? And exactly how would their search not be a needle in a haystack as the chap's lawyer states? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77jx4d5748oI think he has a former manager of the tip on board, and he says that records will identify where they were tipping at the time the drive was scrapped. A couple of things I don't understand:
- the drive is not sealed, so I assume water will get in and rust it?
- say they find 6 drives in the specified area. Does he have a serial number to identify which is his. I assume he wouldn't be allowed to take anything away for analysis unless he can prove it was his
- I believe crypto investment is treated the same as any other investment for CG purposes. Given that the coins had virtually nil value when he procured them, doesn't he face a large capital gain tax bill if he sells them?
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Post by agent69 on Dec 3, 2024 19:10:19 GMT
What do people think of Jaguar's latest concept car?
From the side it doesn't look too bad, but the front is a dead ringer for Kryten's head
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Post by bracknellboy on Dec 3, 2024 21:11:39 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. I'd like to know more technical detail. How long could a drive keep its data? And exactly how would their search not be a needle in a haystack as the chap's lawyer states? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77jx4d5748oI think he has a former manager of the tip on board, and he says that records will identify where they were tipping at the time the drive was scrapped. A couple of things I don't understand:
- the drive is not sealed, so I assume water will get in and rust it?
- say they find 6 drives in the specified area. Does he have a serial number to identify which is his. I assume he wouldn't be allowed to take anything away for analysis unless he can prove it was his
- I believe crypto investment is treated the same as any other investment for CG purposes. Given that the coins had virtually nil value when he procured them, doesn't he face a large capital gain tax bill if he sells them?
Oh that's a good point: Maybe HMRC needs to be a supporting investor?
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Post by michaelc on Dec 3, 2024 21:25:58 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. I'd like to know more technical detail. How long could a drive keep its data? And exactly how would their search not be a needle in a haystack as the chap's lawyer states? www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77jx4d5748oLOL Capita wont be impressed that he's wearing a capita logo'd fleece in latest photos ( I assume he works for them ) they claim they have it down to 100,000 tons of material ( ie the material dumped 6 months either side of the date he dumped it ) the "investors" claim they can find the drive as it passes a scanner using AI, I hope the judge says "if you took it to the tip, at the point at which the material was deposited it becomes council property." even if he does win and get permission to excavate an area I've said and will say it again it's possible the drive was treated as scrap metal and has been melted It's possible the drive was found by someone and reformatted and reused It's likely if the drive is there it is damaged, I would suggest after multiple years buried it is very likely the disk itself is warped or even shattered I would say the chances of it being recoverable are several thousand to 1 If I was an investor in this recovery plan I'd be looking at taking a very large chunk ( at least 80-90% ) of any return as it's me taking most of the risk Now lets say that they don't find it, do they rescan ie process the material again, do they go back to court for permission to excavate a bigger area Yes I did think it naïve of him offering just 10% to the council. The starting point should be 50% as they hold all the cards. Not sure rust would be a problem as presumably there are people out there who know how to proof of concept HDDs etc and may well be able to extract the information if the incentive is there. Re scrap metal we don't know how it was disposed. Presumably if dumped on its own into a wheelie bin there's every chance it would be landfilled. But in a PC case it would seem easier for someone to divert to recycling. We'd need to know a lot more about the council's processes at the time. Again, they hold all the cards. Overall, it would be a good thing (albeit tiny) for the economy as finding it would have the effect of diverted funds from outside to Wales and the UK. If 50% was on the table I wonder if the council would be less resistant ?
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Post by adrianc on Dec 3, 2024 22:49:48 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. As ever it will. A generic consumer external USB HD? Stored nicely...? No issue at all for a decade or more. Compacted in a bin wagon with rotting fruit and over-full nappies, then crushed under the wheels of a heavy loader, then sat for a decade with ground water percolating down and foetid decomposition gases up? Not. A. Bloody. Hope. In the massively unlikely event they find it, and it wasn't separated out for recycling, then it will be a corroded mess. They can spend a fortune on data recovery, and their chances of getting anything useful are about the same as mine of winning the Olympic 100m, Marathon, Shotputt, and 50m Butterfly in the same year. "We've done our own research, so the haystack's much smaller"...
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Post by michaelc on Dec 3, 2024 23:35:29 GMT
The bitcoin in a Welsh tip case rumbles on. As ever it will. A generic consumer external USB HD? Stored nicely...? No issue at all for a decade or more. Compacted in a bin wagon with rotting fruit and over-full nappies, then crushed under the wheels of a heavy loader, then sat for a decade with ground water percolating down and foetid decomposition gases up? Not. A. Bloody. Hope. In the massively unlikely event they find it, and it wasn't separated out for recycling, then it will be a corroded mess. They can spend a fortune on data recovery, and their chances of getting anything useful are about the same as mine of winning the Olympic 100m, Marathon, Shotputt, and 50m Butterfly in the same year. "We've done our own research, so the haystack's much smaller"... Thank you for your "learned" analysis. We don't know if its a solid state disk or traditional but assuming the latter, it seems to me that the cobalt alloy platters would be well sealed inside the drive. Thus your graphic description of what it might encounter doesn't seem all that relevant.
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Post by benaj on Dec 4, 2024 7:46:31 GMT
“Music sector workers to lose nearly a quarter of income to AI in next four years, global study finds”
It’s probably better to do gigs, tours, or even sell themselves on OnlyFans. 🤣
“Musics sector workers”? That’s something new to me, I hope by no means the Guardian is comparing to sex workers
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