keitha
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Post by keitha on Sept 3, 2021 14:01:37 GMT
just over 2 years back I started the getting out process
To date I have recovered 79.2% of my investment at the time I started withdrawals My residual is 21.6%
my outstanding debts ( Those not sold off ) less any repayments represent 4% If I get 40% of that back then that's 1.6%
so a right now provided no more default I have made 2.4% over 2 years
A little better than the bank but a lot more stress and angst, and possibly better than a lot of others
Just under 21% of my residual is late 20% by 5 months or more
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Oct 14, 2021 10:03:24 GMT
This Year is a lot confusing
ignoring withdrawals I'm 5% up
of that 5% 40% is the June sale another 40% is other recoveries over the year
oddly defaults are very approximately the reverse of my gains
So in reality
repayments of 10% of which 40% is recoveries 60% is actual repayments so 6%
defaults 5% !
So 1% over 10.5 months
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Post by blender on Jan 19, 2022 9:00:49 GMT
So, where has the FC website gone? I can't check my tiny recoveries.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 19, 2022 9:21:44 GMT
So, where has the FC website gone? I can't check my tiny recoveries. Still there. My recovery balance is up to 11p now. Woo!
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jan 19, 2022 14:54:40 GMT
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Post by capricorn on Jan 22, 2022 19:13:57 GMT
Thought I'd share this one. I check my FC account now and again as I still get the odd recovery. This week £200 suddenly popped up in my available funds. I tracked it down to a property development loan that should have been repaid over 4 years ago. Here's the thing - my transaction statement had it recorded as an 'Early Principal Repayment'.
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Post by df on Jan 22, 2022 19:52:50 GMT
So, where has the FC website gone? I can't check my tiny recoveries. Still there. My recovery balance is up to 11p now. Woo! I've just checked mine, it's up to £2.24. Made a withdrawal whilst I'm logged in... It's amassing some recoveries are still coming in, I've sold my remaining tradable part of loan book in Nov 2018.
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Post by indexfund on Jan 23, 2022 2:23:42 GMT
So my FC account, opened many years ago currently:
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"Recent Loan Comments
There are comments for 245 loans you are currently exposed to. 126 are downgraded."
"My Loan Parts
You are currently lending to 0 businesses (0 loan parts) totalling £0.00. Your maximum exposure to any one business is 0.0% of your current amount lent."
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Every now and then I log in and sometimes there are a few pounds/pennies there to withdraw.
Question is, how long will this go on for? Will the tiny recoveries keep coming or will a time come where it can be shut down to save the hassle?
Aware that the loans were sold off but unsure on the impact on keeping the account open....Because of the dwindling nature of all this I have to admit to taking my eye of the ball so interested in the views of others more learned!
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Post by stan88 on Jan 23, 2022 14:31:04 GMT
So my FC account, opened many years ago currently: -------------- "Recent Loan Comments There are comments for 245 loans you are currently exposed to. 126 are downgraded." "My Loan Parts You are currently lending to 0 businesses (0 loan parts) totalling £0.00. Your maximum exposure to any one business is 0.0% of your current amount lent." -------------- Every now and then I log in and sometimes there are a few pounds/pennies there to withdraw. Question is, how long will this go on for? Will the tiny recoveries keep coming or will a time come where it can be shut down to save the hassle? Aware that the loans were sold off but unsure on the impact on keeping the account open....Because of the dwindling nature of all this I have to admit to taking my eye of the ball so interested in the views of others more learned! Not sure myself what they will do however I believe July/Aug 2024 will see the last of the live retail investment loans pay out (I have 3 that end then). So they will then have a better idea of how that part of the book looks like and perhaps come up with something. I guess they would like see the back of all the retail investors but who knows.
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Post by indexfund on Jan 23, 2022 15:44:12 GMT
"Not sure myself what they will do however I believe July/Aug 2024 will see the last of the live retail investment loans pay out (I have 3 that end then). So they will then have a better idea of how that part of the book looks like and perhaps come up with something. I guess they would like see the back of all the retail investors but who knows."
Those dates are interesting and as you say FC must be wanting to tidy this lot up eventually. I would like to understand why in my situation, and most likely most others, I am showing lending to zero businesses, yet have 245 loans i am exposed to and 126 downgraded. And with tiny sums still being added. Surely FC could address the confusion here...what will actually happen and when? As you say [currently] who knows?!
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Post by indexfund on Jan 23, 2022 16:06:16 GMT
Another thought. Is there any way of extrapolating the number of loans sold to the third party, thereby knowing how many loans that are left in our portfolios that might still produce something. I have looked at everything and none of it makes any sense to me!
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Post by registerme on Feb 1, 2022 13:28:49 GMT
Just found a whole £4.02 thanks to this thread . Under a fiver of not written off loans left.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Feb 15, 2022 16:25:08 GMT
Another thought. Is there any way of extrapolating the number of loans sold to the third party, thereby knowing how many loans that are left in our portfolios that might still produce something. I have looked at everything and none of it makes any sense to me! yes Download all your loan parts into excel remove all but bad debt remove all that have paid off 100% or more then download transactions for the 2 months with debt sales in and mark those that were sold off then unfortunately you need to look at every other loan manually as some will be marked satisfied,and some will have been marked no further recovery possible or similar
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Post by blender on Feb 18, 2022 11:01:37 GMT
Hmmm, thanks for that useful process, but I don't think I will bother. Over three accounts we are 'currently exposed to' exactly 100 loans, but they are not all 'downgraded', oh no, not at all. We have £10.51 of capital left in just one loan not defaulted. Its long-term has recently gone that way. We might has some sort of ceremony when the last one is defaulted. What I would like them to do is to sell the rest of the debt and be done with it, please. It produced about £250 last time, which was a nice surprise.
Having said that I made a lot of cash from FC over the years and overall am very pleased with my involvement.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Feb 18, 2022 11:43:47 GMT
I have no issue with long term non payers being sold off. I do have an issue with loans that are being repaid at 2-3% or more per month regularly being sold for 5-6 months payments.
the real issue for me is loans like 67053 :- taken out November 2018 Made 10 Payments then defaulted February 2020 negotiating with PG February 2021 PG unresponsive, pass to legal June 2021 PG is insolvent
This company was wound up by high court order in December 2019 ( Order dated October 2019)
29 April 21 One of directors made Bankrupt 18 December 20 the other director made Bankrupt
So assuming it was the later of the 2 bankruptcies FC effectively wasted 18 months "negotiating"
As this was a bunch of solicitors I assume they knew how to play the law.
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