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Post by valueinvestor123 on Jan 4, 2015 10:49:29 GMT
Is there a more in-depth explanation of how AC works? I sort of figured it out mostly but still have some questions:
1. Where is the secondary market? When I go to browse loans, I can increase or decrease my investment but can't see where the secondary market for loans is supposed to be. 2. The investments get invested quickly in loans where units are available but why do they still show loans where no units are available for investment? If no further investment possible, why do they still list it? 3. LTV: presumably the lower the LTV the safer the investment? Or is it the other way around. 4. Reinvestment: if I leave it on, will it get reinvested in the same loan or somewhere else? I switched it of as I wasn't sure what will happen. I also couldn't locate the auto-invest tool. Has it been replaced with something else? Sorry for beginner's questions. Different platforms have their own quirks. thanks, vi123
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Post by bigfoot12 on Jan 4, 2015 11:05:03 GMT
Welcome valueinvestor123, I think that AC is great, but I don't think that their documentation has kept pace with their recent changes. 1. There is only a secondary market (unless you become an underwriter). Underwriters are the only bidders in the primary market and then after a loan has drawn it becomes available for the market. We no longer have any losses due to draw down delays. Increasing or decreasing your loan is the secondary market. 2. If units are available you will be invested straight away, but you are able to set a target for any loan. If you have cash available and a target when someone else sells some you will buy some. This might happen at any time. Probably over Christmas there hasn't been as much activity as a normal week. 3.Yes. Generally a lower LTV (Loan To Value ratio) is better. If the project fails and we seize the asset the lower the LTV the easier to sell to make sure we cover our capital, interest, and fees. Edit. Having said that, a LTV of 70% on a flat in a trendy part of London which has doubled in value in the last 5 years and has some unique features might be worse than a LTV of 75% 3 bed regular house in a more stable area, and both might be better than a LTV of 60% over a specialised piece of machinery which will be expensive to move. 4. Are you using the Green Energy Investment? In the manual investment section you have targets that require cash, as your loans pay interest you can keep that within the portfolio in which case it will be available for investment in your targets, if you divert your cash repayments elsewhere they won't reinvest. For example if you deposit £1 000, and invest £100 in each of 10 loans. You might set your target then to £120 for each of the loans. If your interest payments remain they will be used to buy bits of these loans if they are available. The whole green energy thing is an auto invest tool (but only for green energy loans).
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Post by valueinvestor123 on Jan 4, 2015 13:29:33 GMT
Thanks for the very clear explanation. I supposed the great/unique feature of AC is that one can get invested fairly immediately and doesn't need to wait for few weeks till the bids end as with many other p2p providers.
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Post by delboy711 on Jan 4, 2015 21:17:31 GMT
With reference to your question about loans being listed when there are no units available. The default list view is for all active loans. At the top of the list you will see buttons to select other lists including loans with available units, as well as upcoming loans which have not been released yet. If you set a target in an upcoming loan, then you will get units once it is released and the underwriters have put units up for sale. (Underwriters seem to dribble units out over a period of time)
There is nothing to stop you setting targets well above your available cash. The system will simply buy units when there is sufficient cash.
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Post by ladolcevita on Jan 5, 2015 16:24:09 GMT
I am fairly new to the revised website and struggling to understand the dashboard information.
For example, in the MLIA does 'Amount Awaiting Investment' include my 'Target' amounts for 'Upcoming Loans'?
Any help, gratefully received.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Jan 5, 2015 16:51:26 GMT
For example, in the MLIA does 'Amount Awaiting Investment' include my 'Target' amounts for 'Upcoming Loans'? No. That is cash that you have in your account that isn't invested. When you make a change it sometimes takes a few seconds for investments to happen so it is worth refreshing the screen after a while. Next to 'Awaiting Investment' you have 'Currently Invested' which is the total of those units you currently hold. You can see your target total underneath the Awaiting Investments number. This will be the sum of all targets, and may be higher or lower than currently invested depending if you are a net seller or buyer. If you click Loan Book->Your Loans and then Download as CSV you can see all your numbers on spreadsheet (download the free Libreoffice if you don't have one). Then you can easily add the columns up and compare them to the dashboard.
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Post by unmadem on Jan 5, 2015 16:57:37 GMT
For example, in the MLIA does 'Amount Awaiting Investment' include my 'Target' amounts for 'Upcoming Loans'? No. That is cash that you have in your account that isn't invested. When you make a change it sometimes takes a few seconds for investments to happen so it is worth refreshing the screen after a while. Next to 'Awaiting Investment' you have 'Currently Invested' which is the total of those units you currently hold. You can see your target total underneath the Awaiting Investments number. This will be the sum of all targets, and may be higher or lower than currently invested depending if you are a net seller or buyer. If you click Loan Book->Your Loans and then Download as CSV you can see all your numbers on spreadsheet (download the free Libreoffice if you don't have one). Then you can easily add the columns up and compare them to the dashboard. Although the target total is incorrect. It does not include any targets you have set for upcoming loans
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Post by kermie on Jan 5, 2015 18:26:12 GMT
Whilst we're confused about the Dashboard - does anyone know what the meaning of "Total Target Investment" in the Dashboard's MLIA section is. This value appears to be approximately my current total investment * (1 + current rate of return)...i.e., approximately where my portfolio might be in a years time.
Not quite sure what meaning I am supposed to attach to this - is it just a figurative carrot to keep me invested for 12 more months? Or does it mean something else entirely?
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Post by sl75 on Jan 5, 2015 18:30:42 GMT
Whilst we're confused about the Dashboard - does anyone know what the meaning of "Total Target Investment" in the Dashboard's MLIA section is. It's the total of all the targets you've set - if you look at the "your loans" or "browse loans" section, each loan has a "your target"... add them all up, and you should get the same as the total target investment.
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Post by spockie on Jan 5, 2015 18:32:25 GMT
Whilst we're confused about the Dashboard - does anyone know what the meaning of "Total Target Investment" in the Dashboard's MLIA section is. This value appears to be approximately my current total investment * (1 + current rate of return)...i.e., approximately where my portfolio might be in a years time. Not quite sure what meaning I am supposed to attach to this - is it just a figurative carrot to keep me invested for 12 more months? Or does it mean something else entirely? AIUI, it's your current loan holdings plus your unfulfilled targets for loans that have already drawn down.
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Post by sl75 on Jan 5, 2015 18:38:46 GMT
AIUI, it's your current loan holdings plus your unfulfilled targets for loans that have already drawn down. Not quite - for that method of calculation you'd also need to subtract the amount that the system is trying to sell (for loans where the target is below the current holding).
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Post by kermie on Jan 5, 2015 18:39:22 GMT
sl75, spockie, ahhhhh....thanks - that makes sense. Been meaning to ask that for ages!
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Post by ladolcevita on Jan 6, 2015 9:58:53 GMT
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