james100
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Post by james100 on Nov 11, 2021 13:15:07 GMT
Another day another scam, this time Whatsapp, another Fecesbook tainted app. Can't even motivate myself to read the plot and apportion blame. No doubt about the enabler and how uninterested they are in making it harder for scammers to thrive.
I'm starting to think some people just have too much money. I'm comfortably off myself but if a relative sent me a message asking for 1.5K for an operation to remove hemorrhoids and "didn't want to talk about it" that would be a no from me. Ditto, I've never been sufficiently captivated by a potential love interest (or even spouse) to sign over 30K without going through the paperwork. THAT SAID we're all here on a P2P forum so the majority of us have presumably fallen the biggest financial scam in town, presided over by the Financial sCam Authority so can't be too judgmental I guess 
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Nov 11, 2021 15:13:51 GMT
Just got off the phone to a Mobile Contract Scammer.
He insisted he was calling from my broadband supplier Sky ( Wrong it's not sky )
Was offering a special deal on a refresh of my phone contract with Sky ( Wrong again )
Said he would beat my current price and include an Iphone 14 ( is it even out yet )
Asked what I paid So I told him £6.07 a month
he told me I must be wrong $67 a month was more normal ( why was he talking dollars when I mentioned Pounds )
he then said I can get the Iphone 14 plus Unlimited texts, 10GB of data, and 2000 minutes plus if I sign up today 1000 international minutes for only $100 a month.
I said my current contract gives me better than that for far less, and he started on about how the international minutes were worth far more than $100 a month
I said but I don't make international calls
His response was that If I don't take the new package sky will disconnect my broadband
I said "great"
He said "what you mean great"
So I said "I'm a Sky Customer Service Agent working from home, if you cut off my broadband I can't work"
and the line went dead
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Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2021 16:19:35 GMT
... he then said I can get the Iphone 14 ... That'll be the iPhone 14 that's only just starting to be speculated publicly, with a guesstimated release date of September 2022...? www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/iphone-14
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 11, 2021 18:52:54 GMT
Another day another scam, this time Whatsapp, another Fecesbook tainted app. Can't even motivate myself to read the plot and apportion blame. No doubt about the enabler and how uninterested they are in making it harder for scammers to thrive.
I've no idea how Whatsapp works, but it does make you wonder how difficult it can be to check the request for £1,500 was genuine.
- Contact your daughter by phone to see what is going on
- If you can't get through on the phone then send her an email
- If you are going to send money, then send it to her bank account
How did the scammer get hold of the money?
Great comment from the Dad that was conned - 'I used to run my own business, so if they can fool people like me, a lot of very vulnerable people will be in trouble'.
You've been hoodwinked.... it was grand-daughter/grandad (although dad got dragged in too). 😉 But I agree. If nothing else, you'd surely confirm her bank account details were correct - in person or by email - before making a payment. I often wonder how many of these situations are cleverly concocted by professed 'victims' trying to scam their banks into paying back the money they've supposedly lost. Must be a tough gig for the banks having to deal with this constant stream of idiots, as well as those just out to scam them directly.
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Post by overthehill on Nov 11, 2021 20:41:01 GMT
I've no idea how Whatsapp works, but it does make you wonder how difficult it can be to check the request for £1,500 was genuine.
- Contact your daughter by phone to see what is going on
- If you can't get through on the phone then send her an email
- If you are going to send money, then send it to her bank account
How did the scammer get hold of the money?
Great comment from the Dad that was conned - 'I used to run my own business, so if they can fool people like me, a lot of very vulnerable people will be in trouble'.
You've been hoodwinked.... it was grand-daughter/grandad (although dad got dragged in too). 😉 But I agree. If nothing else, you'd surely confirm her bank account details were correct - in person or by email - before making a payment. I often wonder how many of these situations are cleverly concocted by professed 'victims' trying to scam their banks into paying back the money they've supposedly lost. Must be a tough gig for the banks having to deal with this constant stream of idiots, as well as those just out to scam them directly.
I don't know what role the bank played in this apart from the end game where they are utterly incapable of tracing where the money went and who has it, good luck with compensation for this brand of scam. When I make payment now there is a scam warning appears and a multiple choice on why I'm sending the money, aka bank get-out clause.
I don't know if this has become law yet but banks will have to ensure the receiving bank account name matches the payment details, up until now the payment would go through even if the account was owned by Bernie Madoff
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Post by Greenwood2 on Nov 11, 2021 20:58:44 GMT
Spent a minute trying to figure out 003 prefix number calls. I've had a couple but not so easy to check, seem to be Amazon Prime scams or your credit card has suspicious transaction scams. If you put in the whole number (which is too long for any proper number) 'who called me' doesn't necessarily find them but just putting in 003 does.
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Post by adrianc on Nov 11, 2021 21:10:05 GMT
Spent a minute trying to figure out 003 prefix number calls. I've had a couple but not so easy to check, seem to be Amazon Prime scams or your credit card has suspicious transaction scams. If you put in the whole number (which is too long for any proper number) 'who called me' doesn't necessarily find them but just putting in 003 does. 00 is international, hence the extra length over UK numbers. Country codes starting 3 are almost all European countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes#Zones_3%E2%80%934:_Europe
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Nov 13, 2021 12:09:55 GMT
Best one yet
Landline rings a few minutes ago
"is that Mrs X"
"no"
Are you using "my number"
"yes, how else would I answer this call"
"Mrs X this is Amita from Paypal"
"Hang on I've just said I'm not her"
"Mrs X This is Amita fromPaypal I need to speak to you"
"you're not Listening are you ?"
"Mrs X This is Amita from Paypal I need to speak to you"
"please listen carefully this has been my number for 4 years, the previous owner of my property and this number wasn't Mrs X it was Mr Y, Please remove this number from your records"
"Ok Good day Mrs X"
Hangs up
2 minutes later phone rings
"Good morning Mrs X this is Beverley from Paypal Accounts" ( Sounded exactly like "Amita" )"
"I'm sorry this is Not Mrs X's Phone number I just explained this to you"
"Yes my colleague has give the account to me, I've been asked to speak to Mrs X
to update her telephone number, can I speak to Mrs X please "
"i'm sorry this is not her number"
"yes but for Data Protection we need to speak to the account holder"
"please listen Mrs X does not use this number"
"when will she be back please I need to speak to her"
" I've told you this is not Mrs X's Number, under the Data Protection act you are required to remove or correct inaccurate information as it is a breach of the law"
"this is why I am ringing, I need the account holders permission to change their data"
"So what you are saying is if the telephone number you have is wrong you will keep ringing it in the hope that the right person will answer"
yes
"do you know how ridiculous that sounds"
"sir I will keep ringing until Mrs X answers"
"Ok Goodbye"
I hang up and put phone on silent
Just how stupid are these people ....
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Post by overthehill on Nov 19, 2021 13:26:55 GMT
Fraud: Better chance of compensation for victims
Step in the right direction as it makes it harder for banks to give you the deaf ear. It is never going to be automatic as it could be the bank that is getting scammed not the customer.
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Post by overthehill on Dec 15, 2021 14:15:57 GMT
Why do we need more legislation before we can get rid of scam online adverts ? Doesn't SCAM make it an automatic banned advert with financial consequences for any platform that shows it post-ban ? The ASA , advertising standards (non) authority, seem to be as comatose and toothless as the FCA.
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Post by overthehill on Dec 23, 2021 9:32:12 GMT
Wasn't this high up in the government's election manifesto. Ho ho ho. There are individuals using their own resources doing more to fight consumer fraud than the whole government and their taxpayer funded organisations and cronies.
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Post by agent69 on Dec 23, 2021 9:57:26 GMT
I've had a couple of calls recently about buying a warranty for my washing machine. Can't work out if it's just an overpriced warranty, if they take your money and there is no warranty, or if it's just the lead in line for trying to get your personal information.
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Post by overthehill on Dec 23, 2021 10:47:04 GMT
I've had a couple of calls recently about buying a warranty for my washing machine. Can't work out if it's just an overpriced warranty, if they take your money and there is no warranty, or if it's just the lead in line for trying to get your personal information.
It wasn't that long ago, definitely within the last 40 years, that you could implicitly trust everyone who cold called you and now you can explicitly trust absolutely no one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2021 12:36:18 GMT
I've had a couple of calls recently about buying a warranty for my washing machine. Can't work out if it's just an overpriced warranty, if they take your money and there is no warranty, or if it's just the lead in line for trying to get your personal information. Normally it is overpriced warranty, should only occur within the first year of a new machine purchase, otherwise it is a trick
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Post by bernythedolt on Dec 23, 2021 16:40:21 GMT
I've had a couple of calls recently about buying a warranty for my washing machine. Can't work out if it's just an overpriced warranty, if they take your money and there is no warranty, or if it's just the lead in line for trying to get your personal information. My standard approach:- Do you have my address? If yes, send me your proposal in writing. Any other response, sorry not interested. I never give any information over the phone nowadays.
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