westy
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Post by westy on Jan 23, 2022 23:58:08 GMT
My “journey” with Zopa started in 2014 with a small article by that Martin know all bloke about P2P. Zopa looked the best bet and I dived in head first! I started reading the posts on this forum soon after and lots of things made me smile.
You've done it all, you've broken every code.
I smiled at the coder / programmer / computer expert that dotted all the i’s and crossed all the t’s for Zopa whenever they made a mistake. What will he do now Zopa has gone?
I smiled at the obsession with XIRR by many posters. I took one look at the formula and thought “life is too short”.
I smiled at the poring over of “the loanbook”. I used to look at it when borrowers were allowed to leave a little message, often of thanks. As for all those numbers and dates to the right – no thanks. I haven’t looked at it for years.
I smiled at all the dire warnings that if you lent in blocks of more than £10 you would end up losing everything. I often paid in 10k at a time and have no idea how it was split. My take was 10 x £1k is the same as 1000 x £10. With the same %age default it made no difference.
I smiled at “do due diligence” and “weigh up risk versus reward” being touted by posters as if it was possible to do. The number of posters having lost out at other lenders proves we were all in the same boat, basically no idea and hoping for the best. You spoilt the game, no matter what you say.
I didn’t smile when Zopa announced the P2P closure.
I didn’t smile at the threats of lawyers and court proceedings during lockdown, only the legal profession would have won that one.
There's nothing left, all gone and run away.
Well, that’s it, all over apart from one thing: How did I do in my Zopa journey?
Zopa ISA £6978 interest.
Zopa non- ISA £16991 interest.
Zopa business acc. £19486 interest.
A total of £43455 (nearly all in Plus) profit at more or less 5%pa over the 8 years.
Goodbye Zopa and thanks for the smiles. Apologies to Steve Harley.
Westy
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Post by barnsleybiker on Jan 24, 2022 10:00:09 GMT
now that cockney rebel ear-worm will be with me for the rest of the day, haha.
I've been with Zopa a long time too, "invest and forget" worked well, then when Ratesetter became a bank i contacted Zopa looking for somewhere to put my R/S money. that was about a year ago, Looking back, Zopa was not completely open with me, the information they gave me until as recently as November 2021 was selectively lacking or incomplete. i feel they took advantage of its investors, kept us in the dark or lied just to keep the loan book live until they could take it over!
I really don't like being taken advantage of, it leaves a real nasty taste.
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a0010402
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Post by a0010402 on May 26, 2022 16:34:22 GMT
My journey with Zopa started in 2006, if not earlier, and lasted all the way till they closed their P2P business.
So I was with them since the very beginning, and gave them 100% of my investments (I only started platform diversification after they closed), and at the peak that was a six-figure sum.
So I was kind of a founding member, and as such I could be forgiven to think I was special - but I was wrong.
First disappointment came when they announced a role that was a good match for me. I asked if I was interviewed, could I come down to the office to have the interview in person instead of on the phone. They were only a short train ride away from where I lived. This was well before Covid and the stay at home madness. They said no.
This despite the fact they had been sending emails to members inviting them to come down for a members' get-together at the HQ's every year, kinda eat cake and have a chat sort of thing. So the HQ's weren't out of bounds to members. Why was I as a job candidate being kept at an arm's length then?
The second disappointment was when they launched their credit card and I applied but got rejected. I sent an email asking, How can this be? You know I'm a lender and I've got many-many times on deposit the amount that'd be the miminum initial credit limit if you gave me a card. Surely when looking at a customer you consider the whole of their relationship? Please review the decision manually and issue me a card. But they said no.
Then I realized I was nobody special. Having been a founding member or my accumulated business over the years counted for nothing. And it wouldn't matter if the employee or contractor who'd write a rejection email to me had been with the company a much shorter time, on top of being rewarded for it (drawing a salary which of course I was not - on the contrary, I was letting them have my money). The employee would be very capable of turning me down and dismiss me and make me understand that that was their decision and he or she belonged in the company and spoke for it, and he or she was "in", while I had to accept their verdict and I was some outsider and I was "out". And I don't know what affected me most, if not being recognized by the company or their disdain for me transpiring in their written replies.
So Zopa finally ended, but by that time I didn't like them any more.
I went away and started to diversify my funds - and I wouldn't give Zopa a penny for their easy access or fixed term savings plans, and I started to forget about them.
I realized I had been wrong all those years to think they were a fundamental part of my portfolio I couldn't do without and couldn't be relocated (I should have started to look into other P2P platforms much earlier). My very long term relationship with Zopa came to an end when they ended it. And I should have realized, I should have left much sooner. But it's ОК, I'm free now.
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ashtondav
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Post by ashtondav on May 27, 2022 21:23:50 GMT
Sadly, amigo, it’s a business and they take business decisions. I joined in 2005 and benefitted immensely especially during the GFR.
Thanks to Zopa I’m now well invested in LP, PL and UB, and waiting for AC to re-open their doors.
with the exception of a minor dabble with the crooks at FS I’ve had a great p2p experience - thrashed BS returns and suffered none of the volatility of equities. A great asset. Shame Zopa couldn’t make it work.
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Post by a0010402 on May 28, 2022 18:12:30 GMT
Though of course it was precisely at the time of the GFC when I should have withdrawn everything from Zopa and put it to work in the stock market, I'd be many times better off now.
When I look back at the GFC I never think 'Thanks Zopa I could make it through', but rather I regret not having had the foresight and the courage to have staked it all on technology stocks, the returns would have been incredible.
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