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Post by gramsky on May 23, 2022 14:20:27 GMT
I notice that the majority of PL loans are commercial, a sector that will be hit hard should we experience a serious recession. How worried are my fellow investors?
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jonno
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Post by jonno on May 23, 2022 14:32:38 GMT
I notice that the majority of PL loans are commercial, a sector that will be hit hard should we experience a serious recession. How worried are my fellow investors? Clearly a risk, hence I've only ever invested in tranche A loans with LTV<50% which should leave reasonable headroom if problems emerge.
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Post by a0010402 on May 23, 2022 14:39:37 GMT
I'm of the opinion that while rates are rising, borrowers would know better than to neglect serving existing loans, because they may expect that if they need to refinance that'd need to be done at a higher rate, so they'd rather keep the rates they have now.
But I'm also of the opinion that after rates have risen, as the market reaches consensus the rates aren't going to continue to climb, that protective effect will be lost.
Perversely that's the only positive side I see in creeping inflation, negative overall, but if it pushes central banks to raise rates, that might somehow protect my current P2P investments.
Naturally I see that in the long run high interest rates may spark or aggravate recession. My instinct would be to remain invested while rates are rising but before recession has truly settled, and disinvest, or move to safer alternatives, as rates steady and recession deepens.
I think the above, though, without any academic formation as an economist, it's just a conclusion I've drawn after reading the financial news and commentary. If I'm mistaken and that's not how things work, of course I'd be at an equal or even greater risk without knowing it, and a nasty surprise may be awaiting for me around the corner.
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Post by uksoul on May 23, 2022 15:55:27 GMT
I notice that the majority of PL loans are commercial, a sector that will be hit hard should we experience a serious recession. How worried are my fellow investors? Not worried, no losses during the lengthy CV19 downturn, in fact made substantial gains via the secondary market as many offloaded their loans. Proplend was extremely proactive in ensuring loans could be serviced during that recent recession.
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Post by littleoldlady on May 24, 2022 8:53:47 GMT
I'm of the opinion that while rates are rising, borrowers would know better than to neglect serving existing loans, because they may expect that if they need to refinance that'd need to be done at a higher rate, so they'd rather keep the rates they have now. . That's a "half full glass" way of looking at it. However in all the cases where I have lost money on a p2p loan it is because the borrower cannot, or chooses not, to repay it, and nothing to do with interest affordability.
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Post by adrian77 on May 24, 2022 11:13:48 GMT
totally agree - personally I think the US, EU and UK etc have all printed far too much money and there will be a major world recession where many people owing money will be stuffed...after investing in Funding Circle, Funding Secure (secure!) I am extremely cautious about investing in paper funds whether underpinned by property or not as I firmly believe the UK property market will correct - I have repaid my mortgage and put a small amount in gold. I think property remains a good long term investment but I am extremely worried by a lot of short/shorter term P2P loans - just my opinion....
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