adrianc
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Post by adrianc on Jan 12, 2023 13:01:09 GMT
...but why do people even listen to clowns like him instead of actual experts with no agenda. Because he's telling them what they want to hear. you will be glad to know that Andrew Brigden got a degree from Nottingham note " a degree" which suggests not a 1, 2:1 or 2:2 but nowhere do I see "with hons" which a lot of prats include so I'm tending towards a 3 or a pass or just an ordinary degree, interestingly Nottingham offer all of these levels so I'm going with ordinary degree.....which requires 300/1860 credits, our boy is very stupid
I'm very surprised to learn that his degree is in Biological Sciences, from a Russell Group uni - and, as he's older than me and seems to have gone straight from school, that'd have been in the days when polys were still in existence. 11 O levels and 4 A levels. So, no, not necessarily "very stupid". Clearly enough nous to be able to do reasonably well academically. But his military career was clearly very brief - left school at 18, three years at uni, so 21 when he went into the army with a commission, and through to Royal Marine selection (failed)... then back home at 23 to join the family veg business, which has done rather well under his tenure. www.leicestershireconservatives.org.uk/people/andrew-bridgen-mpSo what went wrong over the intervening years...? Speaking of which, did anybody else watch "Stonehouse"?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 13:18:21 GMT
the marine test for a 22 year old is pretty tough it is really designed for 19 year olds
Seems ike the business he ran (vegetable farming) had some enviormental issues
I suspect some sort of breakdown because as you say 4 A levels takes something (but again depends on quality)
goodness knows how true this one is
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Post by adrianc on Jan 12, 2023 13:43:19 GMT
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 12, 2023 13:48:22 GMT
you will be glad to know that Andrew Brigden got a degree from Nottingham
note " a degree" which suggests not a 1, 2:1 or 2:2 but nowhere do I see "with hons" which a lot of prats include so I'm tending towards
a 3 or a pass or just an ordinary degree, interestingly Nottingham offer all of these levels
so I'm going with ordinary degree.....which requires 300/1860 credits, our boy is very stupid
I was awarded a First in my BA(Hons) degree. I accept many things make me a prat... now I'll have to add this to the ever lengthening list!  My understanding is... The number of credits only represents the academic standard of difficulty, directly related to the number of hours of study required. It's the percentage scored in exams and assignments which determines the degree classification. Two people can each pass the same 360 credit course, A scoring an 80% average and B scoring 50%. A would likely be awarded a First and B likely a Third, or an Ordinary, a pass without honours. Both have completed 360 credits. What's the relevance of 1860 credits? You lost me there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 14:22:37 GMT
having an hons, is fine, no one mentions it
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 14, 2023 2:28:20 GMT
having an hons, is fine, no one mentions it Not true - I used to see it on business cards all the time. And why not? It's more valid than many obscure post-nominals you see, which, if you drill down, evidence the completion of a three week training course, or simply that you've paid for membership of some obscure organisation. Yes, I've worked with people sad enough that they will pay an annual fee just to get some letters on their business cards!
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Post by keitha on Jan 14, 2023 16:30:03 GMT
I know one guy who actually had "President of XXX Bowls league" on his business cards the year he was president , and for several years then had "Past President of xxx Bowls league" on them. It was in no way relevant to his business
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2023 16:46:36 GMT
I was asked by a future employer to put my "qualifications" up on the office wall when I moved in (he had all senior staff do this).
I proudly put up, top first
Diploma in Wine tasting then all the Fellows of Institutions stuff and degrees
He clearly felt that the Wine tasting qualification was in the wrong place but humphed off
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Post by Steerpike on Jan 17, 2023 11:20:29 GMT
Conclusion
Andrew Bridgen’s statements were all well evidenced apart from a minor mistake conflating the long term symptoms with hospitalisation after children had been vaccinated. The Full Fact claims are not backed by evidence, use appeals to authority or are based on a ‘straw man’ argument. Full Fact has declared itself a fair arbiter of debate and yet has demonstrably backed one side of this debate without providing evidence to support its case. The actual facts speak for themselves.
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Post by jonno on Jan 17, 2023 12:11:09 GMT
I know one guy who actually had "President of XXX Bowls league" on his business cards the year he was president , and for several years then had "Past President of xxx Bowls league" on them. It was in no way relevant to his business Surely he must be guilty of one bias or another 
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Post by bracknellboy on Jan 17, 2023 17:02:51 GMT
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Post by bernythedolt on Jan 17, 2023 17:25:29 GMT
Conclusion
Andrew Bridgen’s statements were all well evidenced apart from a minor mistake conflating the long term symptoms with hospitalisation after children had been vaccinated. The Full Fact claims are not backed by evidence, use appeals to authority or are based on a ‘straw man’ argument. Full Fact has declared itself a fair arbiter of debate and yet has demonstrably backed one side of this debate without providing evidence to support its case. The actual facts speak for themselves.
Also interesting to see HART pushing the point about our regulator which was troubling me upthread:- I can't help feeling Bridgen has suffered an injustice. In terms of free speech and fair debate, we are losing the plot.
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Post by michaelc on Jan 17, 2023 17:26:52 GMT
If the Daily Dot said it, it must be true.  I certainly don't believe in "conspiracies" when it comes to covid-19 but I do believe debate was shut down by anyone who questioned the vaccines.
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Post by mrk on Jan 17, 2023 17:31:29 GMT
Conclusion
Andrew Bridgen’s statements were all well evidenced
If you like this article you may also like: 17 Pieces Of Indisputable Evidence That The Earth Is Flat. Yes, that's not a serious argument, but frankly I'm not willing to spend any more of my time debunking faulty arguments, only for somebody else to come up with another metric ton of them. Maybe it's not a coincidence that all those HART spokespeople are retired; they clearly have a lot of time on their hands.
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Post by benaj on Jan 17, 2023 17:41:42 GMT
Meanwhile, according to a survey of COVID-19 vaccine acceptance across 23 countries in 2022 published in Nature Medicine, 81% of parents in the survey hesitant to vaccinate their children in 2022, surprisingly, only 0.1% of parents from China hesitant to vaccinate their children.  www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02185-4Health Minister Joe Phaahla said "the immunity of South Africans from vaccination and natural immunity is still very strong,” and there are no plans to buy bivalent vaccination shots at this stage. Despite high degree of vaccine hesitancy in South Africa (only 40% prefer vaccination), South Africa has not experienced a major jump in Covid cases since May 22 www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/national-covid-19-daily-report/(I am not anti-vaxxed, already fully vaccinated and "boosted" once ) |
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