jester
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Post by jester on Apr 26, 2023 15:20:12 GMT
Time and time again across platforms we are subject to mismanagement, lies and downright fraud. More recently across my abundance portfolio things are not as we have been led to believe.
Now in the most recent berries and lights update it appears funds weren't used as promised, withdrawals were misappropriated. A significant "breach of trust and financial damage".
I'm incredibly angry at the lack of checks in these loans and how easily we are robbed of our funds. In this case I'm angry at myself too for now realising the obvious link between the berries and lights and mistakenly investing my maximum in both ... my entire profit on Abundance is now likely to be wiped out and that doesn't allow for numerous other heavily distressed projects.
I'm off to scream in a corner 😱
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Post by nbk on Apr 26, 2023 19:20:03 GMT
Utterly unbelievable - we are looking at 100% loss on berries and lights. As with you all my years of investing and profits on Abundance now wiped out. What with SIPPs on Abundance no longer allowed to invest and many other projects in default, late or the promise of 'all will be ok' later down the road, it's the end of the road re putting any new money in there and holding tight for years to come to see if we can get what's left in there back out.
(I'm am also screaming to myself in a dark corner !)
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Post by optymystic on Apr 26, 2023 20:12:20 GMT
We've been wiped out in M****w V****y CHP as well. Don't expect to see too much publicity or indeed transparency vis a vis these losses.
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Post by adrians on Apr 29, 2023 11:29:24 GMT
I agree with all the above and share your anger about how we have all been ripped off by Abundance. I do not believe the platform has fulfilled their legal duty to represent investors as specified in their terms of reference, most obviously when the companies they have put forward have acted in breach of their conditions. Most recently, their SIPP product was suddenly closed to investment immediately and without warning, again in breach of the terms and conditions requiring 30 days notice. When my wife dis-invested and attempted a transfer, Gaudí (Abundance's chosen pension provider) arbitrarily decided to keep two year's administration fees. We are about to formally report this to the Pensions Ombudsman. If anyone is interested in a joint legal case against Abundance, PM me. It seems to me there are now enough grounds to say they are not representing the rights of their investors.
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Post by adrians on Apr 29, 2023 11:56:55 GMT
And to really rub it in, Abundance has just put a new 'Funded Company Investments' section onto their website, which 'gives a flavour of what we have achieved together'. It includes all the failed or failing investments (houses, berries, lights, CHP and so on) with links to the early puff pieces ('Meet the Directors' etc) with the clear implication that these projects have been successful. It looks wholly like misrepresentation, and it's really offensive to those of us who have lost money on all these schemes
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jester
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Post by jester on May 2, 2023 10:28:41 GMT
What I can't comprehend is Abundance's lack of willingness to protect their own reputation even if they don't give a stuff about us.
With numerous borrowers having either not spent the loan as promised, or transferred it to another distressed company or even worse simply made off with it, Abundance themselves will only come under more scrutiny and negative press.
I understand these investments are sold as risky propositions where we could lose everything but I had hoped that was due to the nature of the propositions in new tech and startups rather than unchecked malpractice from the companies involved without any safety checks in place from Abundance.
When all the losses from the building projects, wood chipper, berries, lights and others come to fruition surely Abundance's reputation will be on the floor???
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Post by Steerpike on May 3, 2023 16:42:10 GMT
AB directors are disappointed and ever so sorry that you lost all your money on GB but please rest assured that we have banked all of our set up fees and sincerely hope that you will continue to lend through our platform.
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Post by jester on May 11, 2023 8:51:35 GMT
I do find these apology emails insulting when we have been subject to malpractice and fraudulent behaviour by borrowers who Abundance set us up with. It's been the same across numerous platforms, sorry you got scammed, shame you've lost your money but we don't offer any compensation from our fees and profits made.
Hot on the heels of this apology comes the update from M****w V****y where everything appears to have been against them getting a decent return on sale of assets and money recovered will be "significantly less" than what is owed. Yeeeeaaaah!!
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Post by Steerpike on May 11, 2023 10:39:52 GMT
I do find these apology emails insulting when we have been subject to malpractice and fraudulent behaviour by borrowers who Abundance set us up with. It's been the same across numerous platforms, sorry you got scammed, shame you've lost your money but we don't offer any compensation from our fees and profits made. Hot on the heels of this apology comes the update from M****w V****y where everything appears to have been against them getting a decent return on sale of assets and money recovered will be "significantly less" than what is owed. Yeeeeaaaah!! However, it is comforting to hear once again that the pitiful outcome is the result of the war, climate change, the market, Brexit, other businesses, Donald Trump, and Ofgem and has nothing at all to do with the incompetence of the directors.
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Post by adrians on May 11, 2023 16:00:28 GMT
The question in my mind now is - can anything be done to seek redress from Abundance? Risky start ups going under when their business practices are honest and above board, I can accept. Abundance acting as some sort of introducer to corrupt and dodgy operators, and then continually dodging any kind of accountability, I struggle with.
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Post by tex on May 14, 2023 10:28:45 GMT
Straight from the ‘Invest’ page “ Carefully selected and assessed All investments go through extensive due diligence by our experienced in-house team” Looks like someone needs ‘to be let go’ then eh?
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Post by agent69 on May 14, 2023 12:48:08 GMT
Straight from the ‘Invest’ page “ Carefully selected and assessed. All investments go through extensive due diligence by our experienced in-house team”Looks like someone needs ‘to be let go’ then eh?
Could have been a copy and paste exercise from one of many other P2P sites?
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Post by Greenwood2 on May 14, 2023 13:53:51 GMT
The question in my mind now is - can anything be done to seek redress from Abundance? Risky start ups going under when their business practices are honest and above board, I can accept. Abundance acting as some sort of introducer to corrupt and dodgy operators, and then continually dodging any kind of accountability, I struggle with. Do they have any money?
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Post by tex on May 15, 2023 11:55:29 GMT
They (Abundance) will have a lot more than me And I feel they should have some financial pain🤯
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Post by tex on May 16, 2023 14:32:21 GMT
Just had a survey come through from Abundance and I don’t normally entertain them (Surveys that is) but I thought I’d follow it through to see if there was anywhere to offload a bit and sure enough there was! Rant returned👍
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