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Post by bob2010 on Jun 13, 2023 11:25:19 GMT
Why would you not wait until the FOS have investigated?
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Post by p2pfan on Jun 14, 2023 9:31:49 GMT
Following the initial post, I contacted Mendelsons and have subsequently spent nearly an hour speaking with them on the phone. They seem like a very professional outfit and have a track-record of success in these scenarios.
As far as I am concerned, it is a no-brainer. Why would one not try to get one's lost money back from a firm that treated them abysmally in all manner of ways, and operated unethically and illegally? Mendelsons are willing to do all the work on a 'no-win no-fee' basis. I asked them repeatedly and they reassured me there were no additional fees whatsoever.
For transparency, I myself have signed up with them. And I can reassure anyone that, when one utilises Mendelsons, there is no obligation whatsoever to 'sign up' anyone else. Any completely unfounded bitterness against them may be coming from people who are biased in favour of Assetz by, for instance, having shares in Assetz, or those still under the delusion that Assetz will robustly protect their interests going forward when Assetz themselves state their focus is now their institutional lenders.
After years and years of giving Assetz the benefit of the doubt, in more recent times I have tried the routes of complaining about Assetz to Assetz, the FOS and FCA and it's all a complete waste of time. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, this is the only avenue with a fair chance of success we have available to us.
If anyone wants me to fill them in on what Mendelsons have told me on the phone re: this case, they can send me a DM.
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Post by bob2010 on Jun 14, 2023 10:25:53 GMT
Following the initial post, I contacted Mendelsons and have subsequently spent nearly an hour speaking with them on the phone. They seem like a very professional outfit and have a track-record of success in these scenarios. As far as I am concerned, it is a no-brainer. Why would one not try to get one's lost money back from a firm that treated them abysmally in all manner of ways, and operated unethically and illegally? Mendelsons are willing to do all the work on a 'no-win no-fee' basis. I asked them repeatedly and they reassured me there were no additional fees whatsoever. For transparency, I myself have signed up with them. And I can reassure anyone that, when one utilises Mendelsons, there is no obligation whatsoever to 'sign up' anyone else. Any completely unfounded bitterness against them may be coming from people who are biased in favour of Assetz by, for instance, having shares in Assetz, or those still under the delusion that Assetz will robustly protect their interests going forward when Assetz themselves state their focus is now their institutional lenders. After years and years of giving Assetz the benefit of the doubt, in more recent times I have tried the routes of complaining about Assetz to Assetz, the FOS and FCA and it's all a complete waste of time. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, this is the only avenue with a fair chance of success we have available to us. If anyone wants me to fill them in on what Mendelsons have told me on the phone re: this case, they can send me a DM. I understand the appeal of seeking assistance from Mendelsons. However, personally, I'm more inclined to hold out for the possibility of my investments being recovered, even if it does take some time, rather than potentially sacrificing a considerable portion to legal fees. Yes, Assetz's treatment of us has been abysmal, which is precisely why I have chosen the FOS route. They can challenge the unjustified fees and push for their reversal.
There's always the risk with legal action that Assetz might decide to go into liquidation before any court proceedings can come to fruition. The reality is, legal proceedings can often be a double-edged sword and may not necessarily yield the desired results.
In my opinion, there's a real likelihood that legal action could turn into a situation where there are no real winners.
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Post by alender on Jun 14, 2023 10:37:23 GMT
Following the initial post, I contacted Mendelsons and have subsequently spent nearly an hour speaking with them on the phone. They seem like a very professional outfit and have a track-record of success in these scenarios. As far as I am concerned, it is a no-brainer. Why would one not try to get one's lost money back from a firm that treated them abysmally in all manner of ways, and operated unethically and illegally? Mendelsons are willing to do all the work on a 'no-win no-fee' basis. I asked them repeatedly and they reassured me there were no additional fees whatsoever. For transparency, I myself have signed up with them. And I can reassure anyone that, when one utilises Mendelsons, there is no obligation whatsoever to 'sign up' anyone else. Any completely unfounded bitterness against them may be coming from people who are biased in favour of Assetz by, for instance, having shares in Assetz, or those still under the delusion that Assetz will robustly protect their interests going forward when Assetz themselves state their focus is now their institutional lenders. After years and years of giving Assetz the benefit of the doubt, in more recent times I have tried the routes of complaining about Assetz to Assetz, the FOS and FCA and it's all a complete waste of time. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, this is the only avenue with a fair chance of success we have available to us. If anyone wants me to fill them in on what Mendelsons have told me on the phone re: this case, they can send me a DM. I think the bitterness from some people still in AC is because they are worried that AC will have to pay out money (win or lose) and then AC will come after more of their cash to pay for their loses. However AC have got form using posters (as has been mentioned for Trustpilot) to trash the ones who criticize them. I have had a lot of attacks in the past from a vocal set of posters including one who trolled me to GrowthStreet board (I had funds GrowthStreet) to attack me there. Most seem to have disappeared now as it is clear they were wrong and can’t defend their position or perhaps AC have just given up as they are not looking for any new retail business. Totally agree that this is “the only avenue with a fair chance of success we have available to us”, AC must be held to account.
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Post by garreh on Jun 14, 2023 11:31:00 GMT
Mendelsons are willing to do all the work on a 'no-win no-fee' basis. I asked them repeatedly and they reassured me there were no additional fees whatsoever. Lawyers don't work for free. Someone is always paying a fee. I hope AC have LEI insurance to cover legal fees. Have Mendelsons clarified what the success fee will be if the case is successful? I would wager they would take a significant capital amount of your investment. By law it's capped at 25%.
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 14, 2023 19:28:42 GMT
I do find it odd that those bitter with Assetz Capital seem to be attributing this feeling to those who have questioned the merits of their course. It doesnt seem to be unreasonable to question the approach in the light of bitter experience elsewhere in P2P where the law of unintended consequence has been much in evidence.
No idea if the lawyers are any good or not ... Im just looking at their website which makes various claims without providing any evidence and contains factual errors and commenting on that basis.
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 14, 2023 19:52:33 GMT
From what you say you have a good case because you didn't state what type of investor you are and AC carried on investing for you so good luck with that but I did state a type so your case wouldn't help me and I suggest it will cost the rest of us more fees as AC will just pass the costs on to us This would appear to relate to financial promotion rules & investor classification to permit access to such promotions. The problem I forsee is that the product being promoted was a p2p portfolio product not individual P2P loans so it is the investment into the AA that is the point the rules apply not subsequent deployment/redeployment of funds into individual loans within the portfolio. No new cash is being invested into the account so probably the lack of classification isnt relevant.
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Post by scepticalinvestor on Jun 15, 2023 14:07:45 GMT
Following the initial post, I contacted Mendelsons and have subsequently spent nearly an hour speaking with them on the phone. They seem like a very professional outfit and have a track-record of success in these scenarios. As far as I am concerned, it is a no-brainer. Why would one not try to get one's lost money back from a firm that treated them abysmally in all manner of ways, and operated unethically and illegally? Mendelsons are willing to do all the work on a 'no-win no-fee' basis. I asked them repeatedly and they reassured me there were no additional fees whatsoever. For transparency, I myself have signed up with them. And I can reassure anyone that, when one utilises Mendelsons, there is no obligation whatsoever to 'sign up' anyone else. Any completely unfounded bitterness against them may be coming from people who are biased in favour of Assetz by, for instance, having shares in Assetz, or those still under the delusion that Assetz will robustly protect their interests going forward when Assetz themselves state their focus is now their institutional lenders. After years and years of giving Assetz the benefit of the doubt, in more recent times I have tried the routes of complaining about Assetz to Assetz, the FOS and FCA and it's all a complete waste of time. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, this is the only avenue with a fair chance of success we have available to us. If anyone wants me to fill them in on what Mendelsons have told me on the phone re: this case, they can send me a DM. Thanks for the update p2pfan, I'm going to sign up as well. Nothing to lose and it sticks in my craw that AC has got away with everything that they have over the years.
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Post by overthehill on Jun 15, 2023 14:35:32 GMT
Not been following the finer details and scale of Assetzcapital's actions with respect to the dubious legal grounds but w.t.f is going on here. The greedy feeders are taking 80% of my interest payment for this loan. Can anyone explain ?
Claimed Lender Fee of £0.83 from Interest payment of £1.04 for loan X
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Post by rscal on Jun 15, 2023 16:19:19 GMT
Not been following the finer details and scale of Assetzcapital's actions with respect to the dubious legal grounds but w.t.f is going on here. The greedy feeders are taking 80% of my interest payment for this loan. Can anyone explain ?
Claimed Lender Fee of £0.83 from Interest payment of £1.04 for loan X
It should be for the last bit of the month - a part is taken of that particular receipt rather than the whole (and you will get 19p 21p this time) The fee is claimed on every interest payment at '100%' until the dues for the month are reduced to nil.
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Post by overthehill on Jun 15, 2023 18:43:51 GMT
It should be for the last bit of the month - a part is taken of that particular receipt rather than the whole (and you will get 19p 21p this time) The fee is claimed on every interest payment at '100%' until the dues for the month are reduced to nil. Not been following the finer details and scale of Assetzcapital's actions with respect to the dubious legal grounds but w.t.f is going on here. The greedy feeders are taking 80% of my interest payment for this loan. Can anyone explain ?
Claimed Lender Fee of £0.83 from Interest payment of £1.04 for loan X
I don't understand what that means to be honest. It's the only loan I have left paying any interest and Assetzcapital are taking 80% of my interest payment every month. Am I correct or not ?
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Post by rscal on Jun 15, 2023 19:06:01 GMT
It should be for the last bit of the month - a part is taken of that particular receipt rather than the whole (and you will get 19p 21p this time) The fee is claimed on every interest payment at '100%' until the dues for the month are reduced to nil. I don't understand what that means to be honest. It's the only loan I have left paying any interest and Assetzcapital are taking 80% of my interest payment every month. Am I correct or not ? Assuming it is the only interest bearing loan left then it [the 80% share] is likely as a result of the up and down calculation of 'performing capital' if you had two loans paying interest last month (say) then this month's deductions would be proportionately greater. Oh and stuartassetzcapital is it really worth it to collect 80p a month from an unhappy customer? Hmm? Is that worth a £750 complaint fee (never mind staff overages) to 'sort out' if they want to ask for it back and you blink?
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Post by ilmoro on Jun 15, 2023 19:37:35 GMT
It should be for the last bit of the month - a part is taken of that particular receipt rather than the whole (and you will get 19p 21p this time) The fee is claimed on every interest payment at '100%' until the dues for the month are reduced to nil. I don't understand what that means to be honest. It's the only loan I have left paying any interest and Assetzcapital are taking 80% of my interest payment every month. Am I correct or not ? They are taking 2.9% of your performing invested balance. Which loan is it?
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Post by overthehill on Jun 16, 2023 8:30:53 GMT
I don't understand what that means to be honest. It's the only loan I have left paying any interest and Assetzcapital are taking 80% of my interest payment every month. Am I correct or not ? They are taking 2.9% of your performing invested balance. Which loan is it? Thanks. That has exceeded any greed level I thought even AC capable of climbing to. Daylight robbery, I had no idea. Can't be bothered logging in to find out what loan it is, what difference does it make which pocket they steal from.
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Post by alender on Jun 16, 2023 18:21:11 GMT
Looks like AC are trying to drum up business for Mendelsons with these latest changes to the fees.
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