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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jan 29, 2015 15:10:08 GMT
Ok, I've been checking this out on the site .. congratulations on actually doing it. A couple of minor points though ..
1) I don't see much point in having an upper rate slider for where you want to enter an auction .. OK, I guess if you enter at 11.00 when currently you could get in at 11.25, and the 11.25 and some of the 11s drop out, you might avoid being rippled down from 11.25 to 11.0 to 10.75, but that's a) unlikely and b) .25% ain't that big a deal? Or am I missing the fact that you can manually get in at 11.15%, and avoid the .25% step(s)?
2) What is wrong with the much simpler (to implement) bond-style dynamic auction .. everyone bids their best and final offer, you figure out who is left in at the end, and then everyone gets the (same) top rate that was collected by the marginal bidder(s)? If there is a huge spread then the borrower might not like the final rate but ..
The 'fairness' advertising/marketing potential on that must be huge .. nobody can scr&w themself by accident (and if anyone really wants to take 5% income when everyone else got 10%, they can always donate the excess to charity.) It has some of the advantages of fixed rate, with the body of lenders setting the fix point, instead of HQ guesstimating it in advance. Compare and contrast FC, where (apart from fixed rate) you can have Granny getting 6% on an A+ loan while Joe Cool was in for a marginal rate of 14.8% .. same loan, same risk. OK, Granny got what she asked for, but I wouldn't really want to recommend that to MY Granny (if I had any left).
Just my tuppence worth .. (well OK, I did deposit a little more than that).
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Post by ablrate on Jan 29, 2015 16:03:41 GMT
Ok, I've been checking this out on the site .. congratulations on actually doing it. A couple of minor points though .. 1) I don't see much point in having an upper rate slider for where you want to enter an auction .. OK, I guess if you enter at 11.00 when currently you could get in at 11.25, and the 11.25 and some of the 11s drop out, you might avoid being rippled down from 11.25 to 11.0 to 10.75, but that's a) unlikely and b) .25% ain't that big a deal? Or am I missing the fact that you can manually get in at 11.15%, and avoid the .25% step(s)? 2) What is wrong with the much simpler (to implement) bond-style dynamic auction .. everyone bids their best and final offer, you figure out who is left in at the end, and then everyone gets the (same) top rate that was collected by the marginal bidder(s)? If there is a huge spread then the borrower might not like the final rate but .. The 'fairness' advertising/marketing potential on that must be huge .. nobody can scr&w themself by accident (and if anyone really wants to take 5% income when everyone else got 10%, they can always donate the excess to charity.) It has some of the advantages of fixed rate, with the body of lenders setting the fix point, instead of HQ guesstimating it in advance. Compare and contrast FC, where (apart from fixed rate) you can have Granny getting 6% on an A+ loan while Joe Cool was in for a marginal rate of 14.8% .. same loan, same risk. OK, Granny got what she asked for, but I wouldn't really want to recommend that to MY Granny (if I had any left). Just my tuppence worth .. (well OK, I did deposit a little more than that). Hi Thanks for the feedback. In fact the 2nd one you mention is exactly what happens in an auction. If you bid A bids 8%, B bids 9% and C bids 10% and it takes all of the bids in that chain to fill the loan, everyone gets 10%... We thought, like you, that those taking the same risk, should get the same rate. Our feeling was that if the business wants to get a lower rate then they should offer more information, market their deal more and get more bidders in bidding against each other... rather than have different rates for different people taking he same risk. The new platform will add functionality that is much more useful to all.... looking forward to getting it launched and showing you all how it works. Regards Ablrate
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jan 29, 2015 18:12:33 GMT
If it works like that then your marketing department are missing a trick, and the video on the website is more complicated than it could be. You don't need an upper rate slider, nor the concept of knocked out bids being rebid .. You are never knocked out until the rate goes below your lowest acceptable.
I may have missed the 'all get best rate' by not studying the manual bid video .. Dynamic appeals much more. Now if you only had more auctions!! Oh, and spread them around as much ass possible please ... I don't want to be 100% in aircraft leasing almost as much as I don't want to be in wind turbines.
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