keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 27, 2023 16:42:44 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801is it just me or does it add insult to injury that if and when he is compensated that he will be charged for bed and board at a rate of up 25% of the maximum £1 million he will receive. £1million seems like a lot but he's lost 20 years of his life, at 57 he has no time to build a career or indeed a pension ( I assume you have no entitlement to state pension for time inside ). He has missed his son growing up, probably parents funerals, family weddings etc. And honestly the victim says her attacker had a smooth chest, Mr Malkinson has a hairy chest and several distinctive tattoos, nor did he look anything like the EFIT. At the point in the interview that glaring contradiction was found surely they should have re questioned the victim. But then I wonder why did the Victim pick him out in the line up, was she prompted by an officer. It feels like a stitch up by GMP particularly as it is now reported that at least one witness who said they saw him near the scene had charges dropped. Will those involved be held to account will they testes.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 27, 2023 16:53:17 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66324801is it just me or does it add insult to injury that if and when he is compensated that he will be charged for bed and board at a rate of up 25% of the maximum £1 million he will receive. £1million seems like a lot but he's lost 20 years of his life, at 57 he has no time to build a career or indeed a pension ( I assume you have no entitlement to state pension for time inside ). He has missed his son growing up, probably parents funerals, family weddings etc. And honestly the victim says her attacker had a smooth chest, Mr Malkinson has a hairy chest and several distinctive tattoos, nor did he look anything like the EFIT. At the point in the interview that glaring contradiction was found surely they should have re questioned the victim. But then I wonder why did the Victim pick him out in the line up, was she prompted by an officer. It feels like a stitch up by GMP particularly as it is now reported that at least one witness who said they saw him near the scene had charges dropped. Will those involved be held to account will they testes. What the actual **** ? ? That's a total outrage. Given that he ought to be receiving 'punitive' compensation and money to set him up for retirement, given his age, £1m is not a lot. EDIT: I can get the logic. Lets say the compensation package consists of several separate elements: say an element of "punitive" compensation for wrongful conviction, loss of liberty etc.; and then a separate chunk for loss of earnings. And then the loss of earnings is adjusted for 'costs you didn't incur'. So that is logical, but if you were on the receiving end of that you'd be pretty P*****d off. How about: but I didn't get to choose the type of bed and board that I had to endure ?
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 27, 2023 17:04:15 GMT
If he gets it soon, then if he puts 200k into a pension he might get £12,000 a year back.
Another thing to consider 20 years inside, he will be institutionalised. He will be virtually unemployable after all, his skills will be 20 years out of date and 57 is pretty old to be doing security. I'd guess he is unlikely to have even basic keyboard etc skills
And I'm prepared to take a bet the DWP play silly buggers with him when he tries to sign on.
Mud sticks, and even though he is innocent, some people would not want to be associated with him ( it is theoretically possible that he could find himself unable to get a bank account )
The article refers to his ex partner, should she not also be due compensation for loss of his income etc etc.
Compensation should also take into account what he was convicted off so wrongly jailed for a sex crime should be a higher figure than burglary or fraud, after all the latter don't have to worry every day about other prisoners coming after them.
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Post by Greenwood2 on Jul 27, 2023 17:12:57 GMT
Apparently there was DNA that proved he was innocent in 2012 (I think, a long time ago anyway), but nobody looked!
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Post by michaelc on Jul 27, 2023 19:50:18 GMT
If he gets it soon, then if he puts 200k into a pension he might get £12,000 a year back. Another thing to consider 20 years inside, he will be institutionalised. He will be virtually unemployable after all, his skills will be 20 years out of date and 57 is pretty old to be doing security. I'd guess he is unlikely to have even basic keyboard etc skills And I'm prepared to take a bet the DWP play silly buggers with him when he tries to sign on. Mud sticks, and even though he is innocent, some people would not want to be associated with him ( it is theoretically possible that he could find himself unable to get a bank account ) The article refers to his ex partner, should she not also be due compensation for loss of his income etc etc. Compensation should also take into account what he was convicted off so wrongly jailed for a sex crime should be a higher figure than burglary or fraud, after all the latter don't have to worry every day about other prisoners coming after them. In order to be eligible for compensation he needs to show to the relevant minister that he is innocent beyond reasonable doubt - a higher test than not guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Of course, this chap will easily meet that as there is DNA evidence so I hope there will be zero "mud sticks" since DNA does not lie. I do think a million quid is nowhere enough - I wonder when the figure was introduced as it seems quite a round number. I would start from the fact that life is priceless but that the state doesn't have infinite resources. Pretending it is based on some pseudo scientific methodology for arriving at the figure is nonsense - discounting 25% for bed and board indeed! No. It should be recognised as an emotional decision. Given this length of judicial error is rare it would be of virtually zero significance to the exchequer to provide him with a pension of 10x the average salary adjusted annually plus £1M possibly to be used as part of a house purchase.
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Post by captainconfident on Jul 27, 2023 23:26:57 GMT
This is a dreadful, shameful case and I was struck by the fact that he could have been out ten years ago if he had lied and said that he was guilty. You can imagine thousands have taken this option. The system is designed to protect itself from exactly this man, to reassure us that all prisoners are guilty because they admitted it.
Top judges have taken the attitude that releasing innocent prisoners undermines confidence in the justice system. I remember Lord Dennings many statements to this effect, and have dug one out for consideration. This one is from his statement refusing to allow the Birmingham Six's civil action against the police to proceed:-
"If they won, it would mean that the police were guilty of perjury; that they were guilty of violence and threats; that the confessions were involuntary and improperly admitted in evidence; and that the convictions were erroneous… That was such an appalling vista that every sensible person would say, ‘It cannot be right that these actions should go any further’.”
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Post by benaj on Jul 28, 2023 6:26:40 GMT
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Post by m2btj on Aug 2, 2023 10:14:39 GMT
This is a dreadful, shameful case and I was struck by the fact that he could have been out ten years ago if he had lied and said that he was guilty. You can imagine thousands have taken this option. The system is designed to protect itself from exactly this man, to reassure us that all prisoners are guilty because they admitted it. Top judges have taken the attitude that releasing innocent prisoners undermines confidence in the justice system. I remember Lord Dennings many statements to this effect, and have dug one out for consideration. This one is from his statement refusing to allow the Birmingham Six's civil action against the police to proceed:- " If they won, it would mean that the police were guilty of perjury; that they were guilty of violence and threats; that the confessions were involuntary and improperly admitted in evidence; and that the convictions were erroneous… That was such an appalling vista that every sensible person would say, ‘It cannot be right that these actions should go any further’.” The Met Police alone have officers guilty of all of those crimes! Some convicted, others not! I always thought that judges were naïve fools, living in their bubbles of wealth & entitlement.
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Post by keitha on Aug 2, 2023 11:00:54 GMT
I enjoyed Judge John Deed on TV, I though it was fiction but given some stuff in recent years it looks more like a documentary
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Post by keitha on Aug 16, 2023 9:20:03 GMT
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Post by ozboy on Aug 16, 2023 17:56:23 GMT
Won't happen, and never will happen. As we all know. Our entire system is broken and very, VERY few are interested in actually fixing it, not that it was ever perfect, but it has been rottening (my new Trumpism!) for decades now and there is some almighty $hit coming up on the horizon.......... As always, IMHO of course!
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Post by benaj on Oct 6, 2023 8:04:12 GMT
No idea whether this guy is truly innocent. But it's shocking to read he's spent £500k to prove his "innocence". It's even shocking that the 11 strong jury returned not guilty verdict for 12 counts of indecent assaults because the DNA of semen must have been planted. www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/23535460.fishguard-man-cleared-16-historical-child-sex-offences/Surely, the current technology cannot manufacture semen with DNA matched to an individual, and how did his semen get there in the first place? |
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