keitha
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Post by keitha on Nov 18, 2023 16:36:58 GMT
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Post by adrianc on Nov 18, 2023 17:26:00 GMT
Given the Met employs 46,000 people...
Let's assume an average 10 year career, and two uses of the suite per working day - that would see a little under 1 in 20 of the staff ever going through it...
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 18, 2023 21:00:39 GMT
Given the Met employs 46,000 people... Let's assume an average 10 year career, and two uses of the suite per working day - that would see a little under 1 in 20 of the staff ever going through it... I'm struggling to derive your figure there, of approx 1 in 20. Can you expand please? Assuming 50 weeks x 5 working days = 250 working days per year = 500 disciplinary sessions per year, or 5,000 in 10 years. If, in those 10 years, they burn through 46,000 staff (your assumption), wouldn't that mean 46,000 / 5,000 = approx 9 staff per discipline session, or 1 in 9 staff going through it? That rate would surely sound too high for a serious disciplinary? Although maybe not.... I'm no expert.
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Post by iRobot on Nov 18, 2023 21:29:04 GMT
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 18, 2023 21:50:24 GMT
The histogram on that page shows approx 9 hearings per month on average. So nearer 2 per week than adrianc's estimate of 2 per working day (assuming all these hearings are in that suite). Nice find - 2 disciplinary hearings per day did seem a little on the high side.
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Post by bracknellboy on Nov 19, 2023 8:37:36 GMT
The histogram on that page shows approx 9 hearings per month on average. So nearer 2 per week than adrianc 's estimate of 2 per working day (assuming all these hearings are in that suite). Nice find - 2 disciplinary hearings per day did seem a little on the high side. Last night I tried to find out a bit about the building (ownership/tenancy etc.). Wasn't terribly lucky although I think TFL are in it. It isn't necessarily unreasonable that they use a 'suite'. A suite doesn't necessarily mean its big, just more than one room. And that would seem a likely requirement as private space for discussions between the 'defendant' and their representatives would be reasonable. I did wonder whether they share this space with another party for the same purpose. Its also possible that the space is used by other parties, but for different purposes. Its not terribly difficult to slide out a name plate that says "Misconduct Suite" and slide in one that says "ACME Annual sales awards". All speculation of course.
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Post by bernythedolt on Nov 19, 2023 13:21:35 GMT
The histogram on that page shows approx 9 hearings per month on average. So nearer 2 per week than adrianc 's estimate of 2 per working day (assuming all these hearings are in that suite). Nice find - 2 disciplinary hearings per day did seem a little on the high side. Last night I tried to find out a bit about the building (ownership/tenancy etc.). Wasn't terribly lucky although I think TFL are in it. It isn't necessarily unreasonable that they use a 'suite'. A suite doesn't necessarily mean its big, just more than one room. And that would seem a likely requirement as private space for discussions between the 'defendant' and their representatives would be reasonable. I did wonder whether they share this space with another party for the same purpose. Its also possible that the space is used by other parties, but for different purposes. Its not terribly difficult to slide out a name plate that says "Misconduct Suite" and slide in one that says "ACME Annual sales awards". All speculation of course. They've made up a few name plates for this suite in recent times. When they slid in "Met Police Burglary Detection Awards", nobody showed up. The "Met Police JSO Sympathiser Symposium" and "Non-crime Hate Incident Training Unit" plates also had to be discarded. The room was too small.
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