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Post by benaj on Jan 30, 2024 10:12:43 GMT
Can someone please enlighten me why we have to accept boiler needs to be replaced after 10-15 years when well maintained cars last longer for decades? Is it because the manufacturers stop certain parts to increase sales? Is there any part in the boiler can’t be fixed after certain time? Or is it our gas engineers aint capable fixing a broken boilers? my understanding - and this comes from my plumber not from any actual knowledge - is that many are simply not designed to be easily maintained, as in replacing failed parts. Not that the parts can't be brought just difficult to do the work. See my earlier post. Why they should fail more frequently than they used to - assuming that is true - is a different matter. But I imagine that modern condensing boilers are probably more complicated beasts than boilers of yesteryear. I'm sure others will confirm that. I think it is a reasonable observation that many things these days do not seem to be built for longevity in the same way they used to be. To that extent, I have some sympathy and support for the EU Right to Repair rules that were introduced. Oh wait, doesn't really matter as they don't apply to the UK. Are you saying boilers heating in the EU generally last longer than the ones heating up in the UK? Not sure how many they are referring to, but this is the translation
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Post by adrianc on Jan 30, 2024 17:06:24 GMT
To that extent, I have some sympathy and support for the EU Right to Repair rules that were introduced. Oh wait, doesn't really matter as they don't apply to the UK. Are you saying boilers heating in the EU generally last longer than the ones heating up in the UK? He's saying the EU "right to repair" legislation doesn't necessarily guarantee parts and documentation availability here...
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Post by benaj on Jan 30, 2024 17:10:03 GMT
You mean you prepare to have a extra sticker for our rights that couldn’t be more useful on a daily basis.
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Post by crabbyoldgit on Jan 30, 2024 19:27:53 GMT
Can someone please enlighten me why we have to accept boiler needs to be replaced after 10-15 years when well maintained cars last longer for decades? Is it because the manufacturers stop certain parts to increase sales? Is there any part in the boiler can’t be fixed after certain time? Or is it our gas engineers aint capable fixing a broken boilers? Simple our average gas engineers ain't capable or interested in repairing any boiler fault , evidence well I work 3 ish days a month repairing/ servicing fish and chipfryers and about a year ago we had a full day inspection by a a gas safe inspector who was more than impressed with our technical knowledge and standards , in a frank and honest talk he gave a appaling review of the maintainace skills of the average boiler installers. Repairers technicians they ain't at any standard and having gone to some of the chip shop sites they have without the required training or certification to work on I will not allow any of them to work in my house unless I watch over there work. The last idiot thought a full service was plugging in a gas flue gas tester and that was it, 75 quid good by, was horrified when I made him do a full proper service to the manufacturer spec. It's simple, change a boiler like ish for like , one days work with the discount trade on the boiler 1000 pound gross profit , I joke not. Fitted at a reasonable standard the garrentee say 5 years is the manufacturers, their engineer will attend no further responsibility take the money and run. Yes parts are available and cheap and fittable , ok some boiler models are just  and repairing would just open up a future liability to the customer that is bad news but they are few and far between. So let's say your expansion tank is gone it's a time limited bit of kit and it's an absolute bitch to change in your particular boiler, 5 hrs a nuts time, say 500 quid plus parts say 75 quid compared to an instant 1000 pounds no come back no responsibility. Just to give a view a friend, qualified boiler man who comes to me to fault boilers who the customer insists are repaired and it is a bit unusual in it's symptoms, attended a couple of years ago a local caravan holiday site who opened up there units and got caught by an unexspected freeze, 4 like for likes replacement boilers a day made him near 30000 quid in two weeks, say no more. Ficationbeen servicing
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and repairing would just open up a future liability to the customer that is bad news but they are few and far between. So let's say your expansion tank is gone it's a time limited bit of kit and it's an absolute bitch to change in your particular boiler, 5 hrs a nuts time, say 500 quid plus parts say 75 quid compared to an instant 1000 pounds no come back no responsibility.