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Post by benaj on Jul 8, 2024 17:27:20 GMT
Slap on the wrist. The latest season of Air Crash Investigation covered the 2nd crash. Expect to see an increase in such instances when the machine takes control and the human override fails. Although bad designs of anything can always cost lives.
The problem with the B737-MAX is that Boeing wanted a new aircraft to compete with the Airbus A321. Rather than designing a new aircraft from scratch (which would require extensive and expensive pilot training) they butchered a 50 year old design (which would only require limited simulator training for pilots). The new plane had a Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) installed that could take control of the aircraft in certain circumstances, but Boeing never told the pilots about it.
I often wonder who will be first to see the inside of a prison cell. Senior management from Boeing or somebody from the Post Office / Fujitsu
What?! So no theories but pleading to criminal fraud conspiracy charge.
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Post by agent69 on Jul 10, 2024 9:25:21 GMT
Another example of somebody who thinks that Gofundme is a substitute for travel insurance.
Due to several pre-existing conditions, he was refused medical insurance for the trip but still decided to go knowing he was not covered for an emergency - I suspect what he really means is the insurance was expensive so he didn't bother.
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Post by benaj on Jul 10, 2024 9:37:35 GMT
It’s interesting there’s an individual donated £10 after the “dad” is home 2 hours ago. “Thank you to ITV , The Mail and the Dorset Echo for sharing our story far and wide!” average donation is about £21 from 788 individuals Not sure if others are lucky as him. The donation amount per person is a lot less compared to my irrecoverable amount in p2p lending www.gofundme.com/f/help-fiona-get-back-to-the-uk-medical-repatriateSome managed to get back to the uk just after £6.5k raised. Meanwhile, student loans companies may need a rethink if all students can raised money like this woman on Gofundme. www.gofundme.com/f/alis-pc-nursing-scholarship$88k raised with $1k target. Who needs student loans when you can get it free on Gofundme?
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Post by keitha on Jul 10, 2024 12:30:55 GMT
It’s interesting there’s an individual donated £10 after the “dad” is home 2 hours ago. “Thank you to ITV , The Mail and the Dorset Echo for sharing our story far and wide!” average donation is about £21 from 788 individuals Not sure if others are lucky as him. The donation amount per person is a lot less compared to my irrecoverable amount in p2p lending www.gofundme.com/f/help-fiona-get-back-to-the-uk-medical-repatriateSome managed to get back to the uk just after £6.5k raised. Meanwhile, student loans companies may need a rethink if all students can raised money like this woman on Gofundme. www.gofundme.com/f/alis-pc-nursing-scholarship$88k raised with $1k target. Who needs student loans when you can get it free on Gofundme? "I employed a lawyer to get the bill down" and if they hadn't the bill would have gone higher. £49,000 seems a lot but includes 2 weeks in an induced coma What would the real cost in the UK be. I have a friend in the US who was charged $100,000 a week for the 3 months he was in a coma Another was charged $50 each for paracetamol. doesn't do any good for international relations when people say things like "It is extortionate. It has been said that the hospitals there like to overcharge foreigners five times the amount, I don't know how they get away with it." actually Ive just looked it up UK ICU costs £1621 a day general bed £586
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Post by michaelc on Jul 10, 2024 15:06:39 GMT
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Post by Badly Drawn Stickman on Jul 10, 2024 16:01:08 GMT
I suspect despite the question mark the question is rhetorical, but the answer is yes. indeed Keir Starmer did exactly that. However his wife is raising their children in her faith, which is Jewish.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 10, 2024 16:34:46 GMT
I suspect despite the question mark the question is rhetorical, but the answer is yes. indeed Keir Starmer did exactly that. However his wife is raising their children in her faith, which is Jewish. in the same way you can swear an oath to any or no god, and on any or no religious book.
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Post by benaj on Jul 10, 2024 16:57:59 GMT
So has any MP sworn in with the Gospel of Flying Spaghetti Monster yet?
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Post by adrianc on Jul 10, 2024 19:50:33 GMT
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Post by michaelc on Jul 10, 2024 20:20:38 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9x8w4r26nkoNot annoyed with the verdict as possibly good news for travellers albeit ticket prices will now likely increase slightly. No, what I'm annoyed about is the civil justice system. Shouldn't traversing through 4 courts be an extremely rare event and shouldn't the higher courts be solely concerned with the behaviour of the lowers courts rather than the substance of the case? It seems to me, anyone with deep pockets can simply appeal and appeal until they get the result they want.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 10, 2024 21:44:37 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9x8w4r26nkoNot annoyed with the verdict as possibly good news for travellers albeit ticket prices will now likely increase slightly. No, what I'm annoyed about is the civil justice system. Shouldn't traversing through 4 courts be an extremely rare event and shouldn't the higher courts be solely concerned with the behaviour of the lowers courts rather than the substance of the case? It seems to me, anyone with deep pockets can simply appeal and appeal until they get the result they want. except that in this case the party with the deep pockets didn't get the result that they wanted. The get out clause the airline was using was the "exceptional circumstances" get out of jail card. The law doesn't define what is and is not "exceptional" (at least not to the extent of covering every circumstance). In general, you can't just "appeal and appeal" automatically: judges have to grant you the right to appeal. I believe normally that is the judge or judges that gave the verdict you are appealing. This is a novel case without prior precedent i.e. it is testing whether a particular specific circumstance is "exceptional" or not. I assume it has no prior precedent, otherwise it would be pretty much an open and shut decision based on the prior test case. As such, there is a significant element of subjective judgement involved. I actually think it is difficult to think of many more appropriate examples for appeal of a civil ruling to a higher court than this: it involves quite a nuanced ruling - what is predictable disruption to "normal operations" vs. "exceptional circumstances", effects a large number of people, and ultimately will have a fair sized financial impact over the years. I guess the lower court judges that both made the initial rulings and I suspect granted leave to appeal felt similarly.
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 11, 2024 7:08:54 GMT
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Post by keitha on Jul 11, 2024 9:46:32 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9x8w4r26nkoNot annoyed with the verdict as possibly good news for travellers albeit ticket prices will now likely increase slightly. No, what I'm annoyed about is the civil justice system. Shouldn't traversing through 4 courts be an extremely rare event and shouldn't the higher courts be solely concerned with the behaviour of the lowers courts rather than the substance of the case? It seems to me, anyone with deep pockets can simply appeal and appeal until they get the result they want. except that in this case the party with the deep pockets didn't get the result that they wanted. The get out clause the airline was using was the "exceptional circumstances" get out of jail card. The law doesn't define what is and is not "exceptional" (at least not to the extent of covering every circumstance). In general, you can't just "appeal and appeal" automatically: judges have to grant you the right to appeal. I believe normally that is the judge or judges that gave the verdict you are appealing. This is a novel case without prior precedent i.e. it is testing whether a particular specific circumstance is "exceptional" or not. I assume it has no prior precedent, otherwise it would be pretty much an open and shut decision based on the prior test case. As such, there is a significant element of subjective judgement involved. I actually think it is difficult to think of many more appropriate examples for appeal of a civil ruling to a higher court than this: it involves quite a nuanced ruling - what is predictable disruption to "normal operations" vs. "exceptional circumstances", effects a large number of people, and ultimately will have a fair sized financial impact over the years. I guess the lower court judges that both made the initial rulings and I suspect granted leave to appeal felt similarly. IMHO a staff member falling sick is not unusual, the average person takes nearly 6 sick days per year, Some jobs I'd rather staff called in sick than tried to work if ill For example a chef with a dicky tummy, ditto a pilot. the official rate for full time staff is 2.4% ie a fraction under 1 in 40, now I accept that that 1 in 40 is not likely to be evenly distributed but... for me exceptional would be a group of say 15 pilots being at the same function and all falling ill the next day with food poisoning
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 11, 2024 11:15:44 GMT
except that in this case the party with the deep pockets didn't get the result that they wanted. The get out clause the airline was using was the "exceptional circumstances" get out of jail card. The law doesn't define what is and is not "exceptional" (at least not to the extent of covering every circumstance). In general, you can't just "appeal and appeal" automatically: judges have to grant you the right to appeal. I believe normally that is the judge or judges that gave the verdict you are appealing. This is a novel case without prior precedent i.e. it is testing whether a particular specific circumstance is "exceptional" or not. I assume it has no prior precedent, otherwise it would be pretty much an open and shut decision based on the prior test case. As such, there is a significant element of subjective judgement involved. I actually think it is difficult to think of many more appropriate examples for appeal of a civil ruling to a higher court than this: it involves quite a nuanced ruling - what is predictable disruption to "normal operations" vs. "exceptional circumstances", effects a large number of people, and ultimately will have a fair sized financial impact over the years. I guess the lower court judges that both made the initial rulings and I suspect granted leave to appeal felt similarly. IMHO a staff member falling sick is not unusual, the average person takes nearly 6 sick days per year, Some jobs I'd rather staff called in sick than tried to work if ill For example a chef with a dicky tummy, ditto a pilot. the official rate for full time staff is 2.4% ie a fraction under 1 in 40, now I accept that that 1 in 40 is not likely to be evenly distributed but... for me exceptional would be a group of say 15 pilots being at the same function and all falling ill the next day with food poisoning Exactly. It is reasonable to rule that managing sickness is part of normal operations. And it would appear that the Supreme Court agrees with that view, as did the the lower Court of Appeal, but not the earlier two courts. But they were sufficiently unsure that appeals to higher courts were allowed. That is exactly how the process should work. Though I have to question why on earth the lower courts ruled on the opposite side of the line in the first instance.
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Post by adrianc on Jul 11, 2024 11:37:49 GMT
Eminently reasonable. For us Parish Councillors, anybody who doesn't attend a meeting for six calendar months is *automatically* booted. No ifs, no buts, no arguments. Day 183, wave goodbye. For the HoL, this was only introduced in 2014... and until this week, only two had previously fallen foul - one of those only eight months ago. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_House_of_Lords#Removed_for_non-attendanceThere's a longer list of those who've chosen to resign - again, introduced in 2014 - and even three who resigned in 2010 rather than pay UK tax... There's still FAR too many Lords - more than 120 more than MPs - and do we REALLY need 25 seats reserved for vicars? That'd make the godsquad the fourth biggest party in the Commons...
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