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Post by michaelc on Feb 28, 2024 14:36:36 GMT
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Post by bracknellboy on Feb 28, 2024 16:52:03 GMT
On the flip side though, its not particularly surprising that German politicians of all people might be over hasty in calling out something as anti semitic when they might not be justified in doing side.
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Post by michaelc on Feb 28, 2024 17:41:41 GMT
Which brings me on to something I'm not quite sure what the solution is.
Namely, when the media is interviewing, questioning or discussing with others in a panel on the telly, it is usually self-evident if any of the participants are of black or asian ethnicity. Viewers usually know from where the person comes from if not the UK and particularly if the subject is about their country.
That isn't the case with Israel and/or jewish people. Whilst watching Sky News last night with a panel they were talking actively about the Israel/Gaza conflict and it struct me that I thought at least one of the participants was jewish although quite probably not from Israel. I'm not sure if either fact should be declared. On the one hand is seems reasonable to know if a given person hails from a country or ethnicity becoming discussed but on the other we might move uncomfortably close to asking them to wear yellow stars - although of course that was entirely different given it affected the entire population. Interesting the person I suspected (still haven't looked up) being jewish was actually the most pro-palestine/arab in the panel. But still is it not reasonable for viewers to know in these "mass market mainstream" debates ?
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Post by keitha on Feb 28, 2024 18:00:01 GMT
Scarlett Blake.
becoming more angry at this as time goes on.
someone on the news yesterday insisting she was trans was an important part of the story.
NO NO NO the important bit is that she lured a man to a riverside, she hit him over the head with a vodka bottle, she strangled him, she held him under water.
She is evil pure and simple
OK I accept she went through male puberty, and is probably stronger physically than most cis women, but the trans alliance can't have it both ways, in this case they say being male and going through puberty as a male gives advantages in strength etc, then they say it doesn't make a difference is sporting events.
I also have to assume that she didn't fully transition as she is being sent to a male prison.
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Post by ilmoro on Feb 28, 2024 18:13:24 GMT
Scarlett Blake. becoming more angry at this as time goes on. someone on the news yesterday insisting she was trans was an important part of the story. NO NO NO the important bit is that she lured a man to a riverside, she hit him over the head with a vodka bottle, she strangled him, she held him under water. She is evil pure and simple OK I accept she went through male puberty, and is probably stronger physically than most cis women, but the trans alliance can't have it both ways, in this case they say being male and going through puberty as a male gives advantages in strength etc, then they say it doesn't make a difference is sporting events. I also have to assume that she didn't fully transition as she is being sent to a male prison. Where does the trans alliance come into it? The criticism of the reporting of the story is coming from women who dont like it being portrayed as a women attacking a man ... factual accuracy is the demand.
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Post by keitha on Feb 28, 2024 18:54:22 GMT
Scarlett Blake. becoming more angry at this as time goes on. someone on the news yesterday insisting she was trans was an important part of the story. NO NO NO the important bit is that she lured a man to a riverside, she hit him over the head with a vodka bottle, she strangled him, she held him under water. She is evil pure and simple OK I accept she went through male puberty, and is probably stronger physically than most cis women, but the trans alliance can't have it both ways, in this case they say being male and going through puberty as a male gives advantages in strength etc, then they say it doesn't make a difference is sporting events. I also have to assume that she didn't fully transition as she is being sent to a male prison. Where does the trans alliance come into it? The criticism of the reporting of the story is coming from women who dont like it being portrayed as a women attacking a man ... factual accuracy is the demand. I have to disagree, if they were to refer to some others as trans they would be slaughtered for mentioning they were trans. can't have it both ways. She was referred to throughout the trial as a woman
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Post by michaelc on Feb 28, 2024 18:58:29 GMT
Scarlett Blake. becoming more angry at this as time goes on. someone on the news yesterday insisting she was trans was an important part of the story. NO NO NO the important bit is that she lured a man to a riverside, she hit him over the head with a vodka bottle, she strangled him, she held him under water. She is evil pure and simple OK I accept she went through male puberty, and is probably stronger physically than most cis women, but the trans alliance can't have it both ways, in this case they say being male and going through puberty as a male gives advantages in strength etc, then they say it doesn't make a difference is sporting events. I also have to assume that she didn't fully transition as she is being sent to a male prison. But if he's evil (using the term as merely a label to assign to such people re BB's point) why would you do him the curtesy of referring to him in the manner he wishes to be referred ? ("I'm s c u m but can you please call me a woman?") Also does "fully transitioning" from a man to a woman mean you are able to conceive, carry a child, give birth and produce milk? Lastly, Ilmoro doesn't make his own view clear but that which he refers to is spot on. I'd be mightily pee'd off as a woman if a bloke murdered someone and claimed they were female. I wonder how the office for national stats (if that's the right place) records these crimes ?
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Post by adrianc on Feb 28, 2024 19:09:01 GMT
Also does "fully transitioning" from a man to a woman mean you are able to conceive, carry a child, give birth and produce milk? Are women with fertility issues somehow not-women or lesser-women, then? How about we all stop getting so excited about the contents of other people's underwear?
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Post by ethel on Feb 28, 2024 21:35:55 GMT
Scarlett Blake. becoming more angry at this as time goes on. someone on the news yesterday insisting she was trans was an important part of the story. NO NO NO the important bit is that she lured a man to a riverside, she hit him over the head with a vodka bottle, she strangled him, she held him under water. She is evil pure and simple OK I accept she went through male puberty, and is probably stronger physically than most cis women, but the trans alliance can't have it both ways, in this case they say being male and going through puberty as a male gives advantages in strength etc, then they say it doesn't make a difference is sporting events. I also have to assume that she didn't fully transition as she is being sent to a male prison. But if he's evil (using the term as merely a label to assign to such people re BB's point) why would you do him the curtesy of referring to him in the manner he wishes to be referred ? ("I'm s c u m but can you please call me a woman?") Also does "fully transitioning" from a man to a woman mean you are able to conceive, carry a child, give birth and produce milk? Lastly, Ilmoro doesn't make his own view clear but that which he refers to is spot on. I'd be mightily pee'd off as a woman if a bloke murdered someone and claimed they were female. I wonder how the office for national stats (if that's the right place) records these crimes ? You're right, most women object to some male creep committing a crime and then hiding behind the trans label and expecting everyone to call them she. I know what I'd like to call them. So called trans women are not women, and never will be, and I don't see why we have to pretend they are.
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Post by keitha on Feb 28, 2024 21:54:13 GMT
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Post by benaj on Feb 29, 2024 6:14:11 GMT
I have to admit that I also don't believe in "evil" in the religious sense. Some people do extremely cruel, sociopathic/psychopathic things. They do it because their brains are fundamentally screwed up, for a myriad of reasons. Not because they are 'satan'. That to my mind doesn't change the fundamental arguments for and against capital punishment. Just another screwed up guy, possibly abused by parents and harm is irreversible. youtu.be/qdhi7k4Q4ZELet’s hope the movie Don’t fxxk with the Cats inspired other “copycat” killers on this earth. Clearly, Blake got hooked with the documentary.
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Post by ilmoro on Feb 29, 2024 7:48:28 GMT
Scarlett Blake. becoming more angry at this as time goes on. someone on the news yesterday insisting she was trans was an important part of the story. NO NO NO the important bit is that she lured a man to a riverside, she hit him over the head with a vodka bottle, she strangled him, she held him under water. She is evil pure and simple OK I accept she went through male puberty, and is probably stronger physically than most cis women, but the trans alliance can't have it both ways, in this case they say being male and going through puberty as a male gives advantages in strength etc, then they say it doesn't make a difference is sporting events. I also have to assume that she didn't fully transition as she is being sent to a male prison. But if he's evil (using the term as merely a label to assign to such people re BB's point) why would you do him the curtesy of referring to him in the manner he wishes to be referred ? ("I'm s c u m but can you please call me a woman?") Also does "fully transitioning" from a man to a woman mean you are able to conceive, carry a child, give birth and produce milk? Lastly, Ilmoro doesn't make his own view clear but that which he refers to is spot on. I'd be mightily pee'd off as a woman if a bloke murdered someone and claimed they were female. I wonder how the office for national stats (if that's the right place) records these crimes ? According to reports the crime has been recorded as being committed by a woman Thames Valley Police has now confirmed to The Telegraph that Blake’s crimes have been officially recorded as committed by a woman. A spokesman for the force said: “We are required to record the gender of individuals when they are brought into our custody. “Blake identified as a female when in custody. As such, Blake is recorded as female on our crime recording system.”
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Post by benaj on Feb 29, 2024 10:55:00 GMT
Well, may be one day we all speak in gender neutral language like Farsi. Our future historian or AI on this planet argue the real "gender" of each individual. Like was King XXXX really a Man or a Woman, or even human being had gender transition? The real problem in our society, some people is trying to justify redefining the words that already in the dictionary, to mislead people for their goals / benefits.
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Post by registerme on Mar 1, 2024 8:32:41 GMT
George Galloway.
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Post by benaj on Mar 1, 2024 8:36:24 GMT
I wouldn't vote for him, but why? is it his personality, his win, or what he’s standing for?
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