keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 28, 2024 11:39:26 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87r2enn88locomparing £43,000 in London with £25,000 in Scotland Average salary in UK £34,900, so I was quite surprised on £43,000 you'd qualify for Universal credit but ... the scots family total income is £25,000 including 2,775 in "child payments" so £22,000 with both working implies that with no money from benefits the parents are working roughly 20 hours a week each. I'm assuming they do get some benefits as the London mum on £43,000 gets them ... But all in all I think this is a very unfair comparison
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Post by bernythedolt on Jul 28, 2024 12:11:58 GMT
My mindset before I started a family: "Only once I can afford to feed and clothe them, and not before".
Today's prevailing mindset: "I want loads of kids and others have to pay for them".
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Post by registerme on Jul 28, 2024 12:14:07 GMT
My mindset before I started a family: "Only once I can afford to feed and clothe them, and not before". Today's prevailing mindset: "I want loads of kids and others have to pay for them". "Prevailing"? Really?
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Post by bernythedolt on Jul 28, 2024 12:24:22 GMT
Generally accepted, widespread, most frequent....
That does seem today's yardstick for a large proportion of those starting a family now. We can't really afford another, but what the hell, somebody else can pay.
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Post by keitha on Jul 28, 2024 12:25:27 GMT
My mindset before I started a family: "Only once I can afford to feed and clothe them, and not before". Today's prevailing mindset: "I want loads of kids and others have to pay for them". It's certainly the mindset of some, and I think it is more "people should support me in that choice". Me I'd have had a system that said if you were supporting your kids then fall on hard times the system should support you for a time till you are back on your feet, however if you are already on out of work benefits and then have another child ( assuming you weren't pregnant at the time ) that you should bear the consequences. yes this may sound mean, but people need to take responsibility for their actions.
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Post by registerme on Jul 28, 2024 12:28:58 GMT
Generally accepted, widespread, most frequent.... There seems to be a prevailing attitude amongst some in society that we have a demographic crisis, need more workers, want less immigration, and don't want to support families. bernythedolt I'm teasing, but there is an important point in there somewhere.
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keitha
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Post by keitha on Jul 28, 2024 12:42:42 GMT
the current system does worry me, I'm told we need immigration because we need 5-6 people working to fund each pensioner so we need more workers as more pensioners and they live longer, but lets say we have 10 million pensioners thus need 50 million in work, surely in 30 years time we now have 1/2 of that 50 million getting pensions so now we need 125 million workers and so on.
it also annoys me when I hear as I did a local politician say that those with a personal/company pension > £20,000 don't need a state pension. ERR sorry but Ive paid NI for 46 years, part of that pays for my state pension ( yes I know it's not a pot but ...) why should it be that I'm penalised for saving during my working life in order to give a bigger pension to someone who chose not to save, In this case thinking of a friend who has always had a better lifestyle than me and has suddenly realised that in 5 years time he will be on < £200 a week as he worked abroad for some years and didn't pay any NI and has a nice house and car but no savings
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Post by bracknellboy on Jul 28, 2024 14:07:31 GMT
Generally accepted, widespread, most frequent....That does seem today's yardstick for a large proportion of those starting a family now. We can't really afford another, but what the hell, somebody else can pay. or in other words, the dominant scenario (hence also "prevailing") The UK fertility rate is at 1.56. It is difficult to square that with a society where the most frequent mindset is "we don't care whether we can afford them or not we'll just have loads and others can pay for them". Perhaps by widespread, most frequent etc. you mean with respect to those that get reported in the Daily Wail/Express/Sun etc. ? Rather than lets say amongst people you actually know and could vouch for ?
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Post by agent69 on Jul 28, 2024 14:19:14 GMT
Thea unexpectedly became pregnant?
And where is the father of her 3 children?
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Post by registerme on Jul 28, 2024 15:39:39 GMT
Thea unexpectedly became pregnant?
And where is the father of her 3 children?
I dunno. Where's Boris?
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Post by benaj on Aug 1, 2024 20:08:56 GMT
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Post by keitha on Aug 1, 2024 21:32:30 GMT
Thea unexpectedly became pregnant?
And where is the father of her 3 children?
I dunno. Where's Boris? could be multiple fathers
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