andy2001
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Post by andy2001 on Feb 19, 2015 22:45:55 GMT
Mine is 12.02% with a bit less than 1% exposure to the plumber.
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j
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Post by j on Feb 19, 2015 22:50:19 GMT
16% at one point, now around 13% mark but plumbboy has a significant holding on me so expect figure to drop massively when loss is taken into account
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Post by brummiefred on Feb 19, 2015 23:34:21 GMT
Two accounts; one stands at 13% the other (hers) at 15.5%, and no exposure to the plumber.
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mikes1531
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Post by mikes1531 on Feb 20, 2015 2:38:45 GMT
My Dashboard tells me that my average rate is a bit over 15%. However, I don't believe it. Why not? Well, it was showing a similar rate a few months ago after Hackney was extended at a 15% rate. I bought a few parts of that loan -- and was rather surprised to see that adding a 15% part to portfolio with a 15+% average produced a new average that was 15++%! Yes, the average rate had increased.
There's clearly something wrong with that calculation, and I can only hope that it doesn't affect any of the other calculations the system makes.
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Post by ianb on Feb 20, 2015 5:58:54 GMT
11.25 here. Plumby snagged me but otherwise reduced my holdings on most other problem ones before they became a problem. Compared to some of the above I must be guilty of a wimpy strategy but at least I sleep OK.
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Post by chris on Feb 20, 2015 7:28:07 GMT
My Dashboard tells me that my average rate is a bit over 15%. However, I don't believe it. Why not? Well, it was showing a similar rate a few months ago after Hackney was extended at a 15% rate. I bought a few parts of that loan -- and was rather surprised to see that adding a 15% part to portfolio with a 15+% average produced a new average that was 15++%! Yes, the average rate had increased. There's clearly something wrong with that calculation, and I can only hope that it doesn't affect any of the other calculations the system makes. It doesn't affect anything else. I'll raise this internally and get the calculation double checked.
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Post by lynnanthony on Feb 20, 2015 7:35:31 GMT
Excel has a built in function called XIRR for calculating real rate of return, useful for comparing with say savings accounts. It takes into account dead time, which dare I suggest none of the figures quoted above do?
My XIRR figure after 18 months feeding money into Assetz is 9.23%. No losses to take into account so far. I very rarely get into loans below 10% and I have been into some of the 15% / 18% loans. My "current rate" on the dashboard is 10.6%.
(I continually refine my lending strategy such as it is, and have decided that longer term loans (2yr, 3yr) at 10% or 11% are a better bet than short term loans at higher rates. IMHO.)
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Post by pikestaff on Feb 20, 2015 7:42:04 GMT
chris Does the average rate calculator show the average stated rate or the average IRR, which would be considerably higher? BTW my average is a lowly 10.72% which unfortunately includes the plumber.
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Post by chris on Feb 20, 2015 7:43:52 GMT
chris Does the average rate calculator show the average stated rate or the average IRR, which would be considerably higher? BTW my average is a lowly 10.72% which unfortunately includes the plumber. I didn't code that figure so I'd need to double check but I believe it's just a simple weighted average of your current holdings. There are plans to add an XIRR figure to the dashboard but there have been other higher priorities to deal with first.
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ilmoro
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Post by ilmoro on Feb 20, 2015 7:52:35 GMT
Average is 12.34% with modest exposure to Plumber. Last year all these post would have referred to 'furniture' so you never know! I'll get my hat
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jonno
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Post by jonno on Feb 20, 2015 9:46:19 GMT
Mine also 12.34% with only a 1% exposure to the dodgy plumber. Much larger exposure to Ippy and Eppy though, so...............?
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Post by coop on Feb 20, 2015 9:56:25 GMT
Thanks for all the replies guys; very useful to know. It looks like the average rate here is higher than FC which is promising. Currently going through all the investor info on the website as I'm going to pull all my uninvested money from FC as the loans coming out there are pish at the moment and may well chuck it here.
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Post by unmadem on Feb 20, 2015 10:01:42 GMT
I'm only at 11.26 % and due to drop as I've more than I should have in the plumber. Upped my investment in it as a temporary store for month or 2 (or so I thought) as there was so little to reinvest in with the lack of loans coming through.
I'm curious did those with returns higher than 13% buy more of the defaulted loans once they were in default or is it due to being early investors in AC when rates were a bit larger ?
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Post by bugs4me on Feb 20, 2015 10:13:41 GMT
Thanks for all the replies guys; very useful to know. It looks like the average rate here is higher than FC which is promising. Currently going through all the investor info on the website as I'm going to pull all my uninvested money from FC as the loans coming out there are pish at the moment and may well chuck it here. I'm not familiar with FC - dipped my toe in the water there a few blue moons ago and got out asap. The average rate with AC on the dashboard I presume only calculates funds that are invested. AFAIK, money waiting for a home is ignored in the calculation.
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Post by star dust on Feb 20, 2015 10:33:55 GMT
The Dashboard says 11.30%, no furniture, no plumbers, no frozen bridges (anymore), just a couple of paused ones. It was around 11.5%, but I rejigged my holdings recently, and still have 4% uninvested waiting for the shrapnel to gain weight.
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