JamesFrance
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Post by JamesFrance on Mar 22, 2015 9:40:17 GMT
These contributions have applied to investment income for British people resident in France, however it seems that the EU court of justice has now ruled that these charges are not legal for those in the social security system of another EU country. France now seems to have accepted the ruling so these charges should stop and it may be possible to claim refunds for up to 3 years. vosdroits.service-public.fr/particuliers/F2329.xhtmlwww.forthcapital.com/ecj-ruling-expats-france-claim-social-charges-refund/Very good news for those of us who are retired in France, as our P2P income will only be taxed at the income tax rate instead of paying an extra 15.5%. |
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Post by reeknralf on Mar 22, 2015 12:51:31 GMT
Very interesting. I haven't been following this story, so may well be talking carp, but I'm surprised the second article says people receiving a state pension from elsewhere don't count as being covered by french social security. I would expect the french to argue that if you have a Carte Vitale, you are de facto in the french system. I guess that, as ever with these european rulings, we will have to wait and see how France chooses to interpret the ruling.
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JamesFrance
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Post by JamesFrance on Mar 22, 2015 15:31:24 GMT
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Post by reeknralf on Mar 22, 2015 20:10:05 GMT
Yes, indeed, but the wording used is affiliated. Are you affiliated to the social security system which provides and administers your cover, or to the system which ultimately pays for it?
The European law is clearly aimed at travelling workers, not retirees. The law states that you shouldn't have to pay social contributions twice on the same income, but I don't think an ex-pat does pay UK social charges on his pension income, unlike the plaintif who was actually working in Holland and paying social charges there. I think France may have some wriggle room on this one. Time will tell.
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Post by shimself on Mar 22, 2015 21:42:58 GMT
Blevinsfranks say
The ruling mainly concerns foreign nationals who are retired and resident in France and have a Form S1, as well as employees with worldwide responsibilities who do not contribute to the French social security system but benefit from the French medical coverage under the EU agreement.
So they think it looks good
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