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Post by oldnick on Apr 5, 2015 15:15:20 GMT
Would anyone in the 50 loan camp care to explain the benefit of it? Chris and his team have better things to do with their time than fixing things which work as intended for the majority of users, and aren't that much of a problem for the rest. The use of the word 'fix' implies a procedure of perhaps unknown length or complexity because something is broken. One would like to think that the UI chris has created is not that ramshackle and that changing the default from 50 to 100 would not be too much trouble. If that is the case, and those who disagree with me don't actually care whether it is 50 OR 100, as long as it doesn't distract the team unduly, I will continue to press for the change. The ease of making this change is based entirely on hope and not at all on any knowledge of programming, so if making the change would risk an 'unintended consequence' I would of course prefer no action was taken at all. I too place a higher priority on the overall performance and function of the website - this is for me a minor but ever present irritant, like a small stone in my shoe.
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Post by pepperpot on Apr 5, 2015 16:47:08 GMT
I'm in the not particularly bovvered camp, I don't find it too much of a chore to click on 'page two' if necessary.
I could also imagine that it would be a moving target as the overall loans list increases, the 100 mentioned is fine with less than that currently live, but will 100 be enough when there are 1000 loans in the list?
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Post by oldnick on Apr 5, 2015 19:36:58 GMT
I'm in the not particularly bovvered camp, I don't find it too much of a chore to click on 'page two' if necessary. I could also imagine that it would be a moving target as the overall loans list increases, the 100 mentioned is fine with less than that currently live, but will 100 be enough when there are 1000 loans in the list? Now wouldn't that be a nice problem. It would definitely take my mind off this current hobby horse. 
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Apr 5, 2015 20:00:20 GMT
I'm in the not particularly bovvered camp, I don't find it too much of a chore to click on 'page two' if necessary. I could also imagine that it would be a moving target as the overall loans list increases, the 100 mentioned is fine with less than that currently live, but will 100 be enough when there are 1000 loans in the list? Now wouldn't that be a nice problem. It would definitely take my mind off this current hobby horse. Didn't we have a setting of unlimited at one point?
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Post by oldnick on Apr 6, 2015 7:38:26 GMT
Now wouldn't that be a nice problem. It would definitely take my mind off this current hobby horse. Didn't we have a setting of unlimited at one point? Perhaps you were thinking of Buzz Lightyear - 'To infinity and beyond! ' But that does remind me of some of the wilder prognostications made about the growth rate of this platform; so maybe you're right.
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Post by sl75 on Apr 6, 2015 11:40:51 GMT
Given that different people have different preferences, perhaps the best option would be for the site to automatically save the selected option in your user preferences, so that the same default option is already selected the next time you visit the page...
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Post by Jack Barlow on Apr 6, 2015 12:49:40 GMT
Didn't we have a setting of unlimited at one point? , yes that’s right, AC introduced a dropdown box on the loans pages with a "no limit" option for the entries per page on or just before 23/10/14, in response to user feedback: p2pindependentforum.com/post/26036/threadDon't know when the “no limit” option got ditched.
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Post by jevans4949 on Apr 7, 2015 6:57:48 GMT
I get more worried about the number of loans IN default.
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Post by oldnick on Apr 7, 2015 7:37:12 GMT
As do we all, but that subject is not so much 'the elephant in the room', that nobody talks about, as it is a herd of elephants making a visible nuisance of themselves on the private forum. This thread is all about a small hobby horse for a change |
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Post by mikes1531 on Apr 7, 2015 17:30:59 GMT
Given that different people have different preferences, perhaps the best option would be for the site to automatically save the selected option in your user preferences, so that the same default option is already selected the next time you visit the page... This would be fine -- if it worked. The system is supposed to remember the settings on a given page, and that would be great if it worked, but sometimes it doesn't. I get irritated when I'm looking at the lower part of a long loans list and I refresh the page, and find myself looking at the last few entries on a 50-item list rather than what I was looking at before I hit Refresh. I then have to Page Up multiple times to get to the top of the list, reset the 50 to 100, and then Page Down even more times to get to where I want. And if I've refreshed the list to see how much some particular entry has changed, there's a high probability that I'll have forgotten what the number had been by the time I get back to the right place! One potentially simple change that could be made that would help would be to have the option that controls the number of entries in a list appear at the bottom of the page as well as the top. That at least would stop the need for me to hit the Page Up/Down buttons so many times.
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Post by skippyonspeed on Apr 26, 2015 13:20:21 GMT
Talking of which does anyone else share security concerns re answers to our secret questions being stored (fully visible) on our profile? I don't have any worry as the answers can be easily found elsewhere, my first school, mothers maiden name and first pets name have been given on my facebook profile/messages many times and are in the public domain. To use questions such as these is a complete waste of time from a security point of view, if anyone can break a randomly produced password (I use a password manager to produce them) its not going to take them long to find the answers to these questions - just an annoyance to have to type them in every time I do not use any of these so called 'social' networks purely for security reasons. A recent Times article stated that if you shared holiday information and pics, insurance companies may not pay out should you be burgled whilst away. ps On the subject in question. it's time consuming enough to watch 20 or so loans, so I think 50 per page is quite adequate.
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Post by oldnick on Apr 26, 2015 17:39:04 GMT
I don't have any worry as the answers can be easily found elsewhere, my first school, mothers maiden name and first pets name have been given on my facebook profile/messages many times and are in the public domain. To use questions such as these is a complete waste of time from a security point of view, if anyone can break a randomly produced password (I use a password manager to produce them) its not going to take them long to find the answers to these questions - just an annoyance to have to type them in every time I do not use any of these so called 'social' networks purely for security reasons. A recent Times article stated that if you shared holiday information and pics, insurance companies may not pay out should you be burgled whilst away. ps On the subject in question. it's time consuming enough to watch 20 or so loans, so I think 50 per page is quite adequate. In the loan 'drop down box', selecting 'your loans' will result in exactly that - only the 20 loans that you are interested will be shown. So a default of 100 loans rather than 50 will make no difference to you. Those of us with an interest in more than 50 loans however have the minor inconvenience of having to reselect 100 repeatedly. This isn't a big issue, and if only chris would say what the chances are of changing the setting, this subject could be laid to rest.
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Post by mikes1531 on Apr 27, 2015 11:38:29 GMT
On the subject in question. it's time consuming enough to watch 20 or so loans, so I think 50 per page is quite adequate. In the loan 'drop down box', selecting 'your loans' will result in exactly that - only the 20 loans that you are interested will be shown. An alternative approach would be to set targets on the loans you are interested in and use the 'Targeted' subset of Browse Loans. That display doesn't show your accrued interest, but it does show the units available to purchase.
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Post by jevans4949 on Apr 27, 2015 16:53:52 GMT
I get more bothered by the number of loans IN default.  |
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Post by chris on Apr 27, 2015 17:47:37 GMT
In the loan 'drop down box', selecting 'your loans' will result in exactly that - only the 20 loans that you are interested will be shown. An alternative approach would be to set targets on the loans you are interested in and use the 'Targeted' subset of Browse Loans. That display doesn't show your accrued interest, but it does show the units available to purchase. I'd like lenders to be able to flag loans as "of interest" or "not interested" allowing for viewing of condensed and filtered lists. We have a lender journey review meeting in the next couple of weeks, I'll make sure it gets suggested then. With regards to the default - I'd rather fix the reason it's not remembering your chosen number to list between sessions than tweak the default. There's a new session handler planned in the coming weeks that will make that easier for us to implement reliably.
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