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Post by lynnanthony on Apr 25, 2015 12:26:59 GMT
I have £1000 in loan 151. My target is set at £1000. On 24th April at 08:42 I received interest and £1.81 principal repayment. At 10:38 the same day the system topped me back up to £1000 by buying £1.81. System working as it should.
But where did the £1.81 I bought come from? I have not noticed any of loan 151 available for sale. Someone must have put up for sale almost exactly the right amount to fill the demand caused by the principal repayment. If they had offered too little I would not have got my full £1.81; if they had offered too much there would have been some left over to show as units available.
In fact it’s more complex; the seller must have offered up enough to fill the demand caused by the principal repayment plus any demand caused by lenders having targets set higher than their holdings, or lenders with targets set who have no current holdings.
If the seller/sellers (underwriters?) want to sell loan 151, why would they only offer enough to fill demand as it occurs, why not offer some to show as available? What is the benefit of this behaviour? Am I missing something? (This behaviour is not restricted to loan 151, I have just used 151 as an example. I have noted it on other, but not all, amortised loans.)
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Post by bg on Apr 25, 2015 12:40:38 GMT
Because supply does not equal demand. Demand is in excess of supply.
The principal repayment was only £163.72. It's likely someone put up a sum larger than this for sale (maybe £200) and that was swallowed instantly by demand.
I have a target of £20k on that loan but only bought £2.17 at 10.38 on 24 April.
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Post by alison on Apr 25, 2015 12:54:16 GMT
Because supply does not equal demand. Demand is in excess of supply. The principal repayment was only £163.72. It's likely someone put up a sum larger than this for sale (maybe £200) and that was swallowed instantly by demand. I have a target of £20k on that loan but only bought £2.17 at 10.38 on 24 April. It bought £0.10 worth for me at 10.38 too.
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Post by agent69 on Apr 25, 2015 14:48:53 GMT
I have a target of £20k on that loan but only bought £2.17 at 10.38 on 24 April. My target is somewhat lower than yours, but I also picked up £2.17 at 10:38
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Post by davee39 on Apr 25, 2015 15:21:04 GMT
Mu understanding is that if a loan part comes onto the market it will be shared equally among all accounts where the balance is below the target, but only up to the target value, and depending on funds available. An amortizing loan creates a deficiency on the target at every repayment and also a cash sum available for re-purchase, but this could be allocated to some other below target loan.
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Post by jevans4949 on Apr 25, 2015 17:22:23 GMT
At one point AC were going to introduce a system whereby targets could be diminished simultaneously with the repayments of principal on a loan. At present, the only way to achieve this is to manually disable investment on loans featuring repayment of principal when the target has been reached - or on all loans if you want to avoid this happening in the case of partial repayments. If people don't disable investment, then as soon as anybody sells a few quids worth of loan to buy a new fridge, lenders will be receiving shrapnel. What happened to that change, chris?
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Post by spockie on Apr 25, 2015 18:16:21 GMT
At one point AC were going to introduce a system whereby targets could be diminished simultaneously with the repayments of principal on a loan. At present, the only way to achieve this is to manually disable investment on loans featuring repayment of principal when the target has been reached - or on all loans if you want to avoid this happening in the case of partial repayments. If people don't disable investment, then as soon as anybody sells a few quids worth of loan to buy a new fridge, lenders will be receiving shrapnel. What happened to that change, chris? I think it was finally decided that different lenders wanted different things, including the flexibility to have different settings on different amortising loans. Surely the current system achieves that?
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