merlin
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Post by merlin on Jan 23, 2014 15:27:57 GMT
I've had 3 defaulted loans today so far, so they're clearly working on it... You must be lucky because I have a few that should be defaulted as they are more than 90 days adrift but nothing has happened so far. Have you noticed any pattern to what FC are doing, like working alphabetically or oldest first? I am particularly interested in 3032 C*pper ***** as this owes me serious money. By the way I have a lot running late today but I hope this is due to FC's It problems!
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Post by phlitb on Jan 23, 2014 16:55:17 GMT
My defaults were 991 (B), 973 and 1328 (both A). Not sure if there's any discernible pattern there except perhaps they might be focusing on the oldest zombie loans first?
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Post by blender on Jan 23, 2014 17:06:32 GMT
A good decision by Andrew J I think and the new openness and communications on defaults and the policy is welcome. When a borrower is in cash flow problems the first action is to lock up the chequebook, and only to get it out when the result of not paying a creditor is serious. If you know that a creditor will not default a loan then they tend to go further down the pecking order. If the policy did not improve collections then it is right to revert to the old policy and at least keep the lenders' statistics honest. Personally I was troubled by a unilateral FC decision to extent the tolerance of lates because I signed up to the old policy on most of my loans and then found that the new no default policy had been applied in effect to the complete portfolio without so much as a by your leave. I would consider this a material change to the management of the loan contracts and I was and am troubled by the fact that FC would consider that they had the right to make such a change without considering the rights and views of the lenders. Maybe next they will alter the T&Cs to give some other flexibility and then use it to give all borrowers a month's repayment holiday on FC's birthday. Perhaps not, but you may see my point of concern.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 23, 2014 17:09:01 GMT
"I am particularly interested in 3032 C*pper *****"
Quite apart from his excuses for not paying before, he has not paid again and FC have "arranged to telephone him" tomorrow after the company has failed to enter dialogue again. My biggest gripe against this sh*ster is that he insisted he had made the second payment when he hadn't. Liar. (And take a look at his comments in Q and A regarding the legal ending of "cash deals" in the business. I wonder if that is the real reason he cannot repay his loan.
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Post by merlin on Jan 23, 2014 18:52:06 GMT
"I am particularly interested in 3032 C*pper *****"
Quite apart from his excuses for not paying before, he has not paid again and FC have "arranged to telephone him" tomorrow after the company has failed to enter dialogue again. My biggest gripe against this sh*ster is that he insisted he had made the second payment when he hadn't. Liar. (And take a look at his comments in Q and A regarding the legal ending of "cash deals" in the business. I wonder if that is the real reason he cannot repay his loan.
With you all the way on this one, oldgumpy. Was slightly dubious about bidding on 3032 in the first place but had a few bob burning a hole in my pocket so threw caution to the wind and bid. Classic buyers regrets I suppose. Now I just hope that eventually FCR will get some of it back even if they somehow have to put his nuts in a vice!
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Post by agent69 on Jan 23, 2014 18:59:56 GMT
"I am particularly interested in 3032 C*pper *****"
Quite apart from his excuses for not paying before, he has not paid again and FC have "arranged to telephone him" tomorrow after the company has failed to enter dialogue again. My biggest gripe against this sh*ster is that he insisted he had made the second payment when he hadn't. Liar. (And take a look at his comments in Q and A regarding the legal ending of "cash deals" in the business. I wonder if that is the real reason he cannot repay his loan.
With you all the way on this one, oldgumpy. Was slightly dubious about bidding on 3032 in the first place but had a few bob burning a hole in my pocket so threw caution to the wind and bid. Classic buyers regrets I suppose. Now I just hope that eventually FCR will get some of it back even if they somehow have to put his nuts in a vice! Is there room for one more in the remorse club? I've only got £40 of the crappy scrappy, but his ongoing excuses are annoying to say the least. Don't know why they don't just shut the business down
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Post by merlin on Jan 24, 2014 16:49:38 GMT
With you all the way on this one, oldgumpy. Was slightly dubious about bidding on 3032 in the first place but had a few bob burning a hole in my pocket so threw caution to the wind and bid. Classic buyers regrets I suppose. Now I just hope that eventually FCR will get some of it back even if they somehow have to put his nuts in a vice! Is there room for one more in the remorse club? I've only got £40 of the crappy scrappy, but his ongoing excuses are annoying to say the least. Don't know why they don't just shut the business down I don't know if you are aware of the "criminal history" of some of the people involved in the crappy scrappy but if you Google <mod edit> "E*** ****** *********" and then look for an article under Wales Online for 21st January 2011 it will give you the full low down. Once you have read that I expect you will kiss your £40 Goodbye!
Given <mod edit> E***'s past history and everything that goes with it how the heck could FC claim to have done any DueDil at all on this loan! If this is taken as the standard of the FC research I am amazed that more loans have not crashed and maybe it explains why there were so many zombie loans out there!
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 24, 2014 17:23:53 GMT
"Given E*** past history and everything that goes with it how the heck could FC claim to have done any DueDil at all on this loan!"
If they did, and didn't find this public information, oh dear, FC!!!
If they didn't, oh dear, FC!!!
If they did, and chose not to tell lenders about it, BIG oh dear, FC!!!
Basically, OH DEAR, FC!!!
More fool me. Only £20 but I was going to keep it 4-6 months then sell. I wonder when we will get news of today's phone call explaining why Mr * was unable to pay for the fifth time. I bet "he was unavailable" and "WACTCTB".
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Post by merlin on Jan 24, 2014 17:46:44 GMT
"Given E**** past history and everything that goes with it how the heck could FC claim to have done any DueDil at all on this loan!"
If they did, and didn't find this public information, oh dear, FC!!!
If they didn't, oh dear, FC!!!
If they did, and chose not to tell lenders about it, BIG oh dear, FC!!!
Basically, OH DEAR, FC!!!
More fool me. Only £20 but I was going to keep it 4-6 months then sell. I wonder when we will get news of today's phone call explaining why Mr * was unable to pay for the fifth time. I bet "he was unavailable" and "WACTCTB".
In my view 3032 has to be the example par excellence of incompetence on the part of FC in launching this £100,000 loan particularly with all this negative information in the public domain. However my thoughts are beginning to drift more in the direction of rip off, because that is how I now feel. Given that FC have at least a duty of trust towards their lenders could they be sued in this particular case for negligence? Could I drift down to the Small Claims Court on Monday morning, pay my £17 and sue the bu**ers and what if the other couple of hundred investors who feel conned did the same thing? Alternatively perhaps FC could as a gesture of good will pay us back out money? What would you do? I'd love to know.
Finally think I might just put pen to paper outlining my very hurt feelings and sent it to the FCA.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 24, 2014 19:20:43 GMT
"I bet "he was unavailable" and "WACTCTB""
Nope. Wrong. ".... their bank took 6-8 weeks to approve... may pay end of February ....FC to review etc."
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Post by GSV3MIaC on Jan 24, 2014 19:51:07 GMT
And if Wales online is deemed too obscure, I assume: <MOD SNIP: LINK REMOVED AS IT REVEALS THE BORROWERS NAME> relates to the same thing?
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Post by merlin on Jan 24, 2014 20:23:45 GMT
"I bet "he was unavailable" and "WACTCTB""Nope. Wrong. ".... their bank took 6-8 weeks to approve... may pay end of February ....FC to review etc." Does not alter a thing as far as I am concerned this loan should never have been offered in the first place given the track record of the borrowers. What other crooks have FC loaned our good money to you might ask yourself before putting more money in FC? Meanwhile definitely going to talk to the authorities about FC's conduct in this matter.
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Post by oldgrumpy on Jan 24, 2014 20:35:13 GMT
Only someone actually trying to hide something would actually crush perfectly good m*****l instr*****s<mod edit to reflect context of removal of url to article> ***********. He'd have got more as reward money for "finding them" than he did for scrap.
Ultimately, though, there will always be "shady customers" attempting to take loans from P2P because the banks won't touch them. What matters in the end is how the P2P companies deal the matter when it arises, which is what we await here just as in "Breath of Fresh Pears". Do forthcoming regulations say anything about checking loan applicants for a "clean licence"?
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Post by agent69 on Jan 24, 2014 21:52:00 GMT
With you all the way on this one, oldgumpy. Was slightly dubious about bidding on 3032 in the first place but had a few bob burning a hole in my pocket so threw caution to the wind and bid. Classic buyers regrets I suppose. Now I just hope that eventually FCR will get some of it back even if they somehow have to put his nuts in a vice! Is there room for one more in the remorse club? I've only got £40 of the crappy scrappy, but his ongoing excuses are annoying to say the least. Don't know why they don't just shut the business down Now saying repayments to 3032 will start at the end of February.
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Post by jimbo on Jan 25, 2014 13:53:10 GMT
IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE FROM A FORUM MODERATOR BEFORE POSTING ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON THIS SUBJECT!
Guys,
Speaking as both one of the forum moderators AND a lender on this loan, I must ask that forum rules are followed with regards to NOT naming borrowers on ANY platform. This rule is in place for a number of reasons; amongst which include preventing the risks of libel and violation of borrower privacy and platform data ownership.
A number of members of the moderation team have spent a not insignificant amount of their personal time redacting borrower information in the above posts since yesterday evening. We have also removed a URL to a newspaper article featuring the borrower in question as this provides an indirect means of identification. HOWEVER, lenders on this loan (who have access to the name of the borrower) need only type "news for" followed by the borrower name in google to find the link that has been removed.
The actions taken around these posts are, I think, the fairest way to provide a middle ground between concerns of lenders on this loan and the rules of this forum. By all means, please feel free to continue to discuss this loan, but keep anything out that you can only have found by having access to borrower-specific data on the Funding Circle platform.
Thanks.
Jimbo (Moderator)
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