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PBL011
Aug 10, 2015 8:53:17 GMT
Post by chrisuk on Aug 10, 2015 8:53:17 GMT
PBL011 is now -12 days. This is the first of my loans to 'mature'. Does anyone know how long it can take SS to repay?
Many thanks.
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SteveT
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PBL011
Aug 10, 2015 9:10:44 GMT
Post by SteveT on Aug 10, 2015 9:10:44 GMT
SS will repay just as soon as the borrower repays. Last week's not-really-weekly update said "PBL 11 – All of the legal documents for the refinance were signed on Monday this week. Should be repaid this week". It didn't, clearly, but maybe this week, maybe next. Bottom line is that, if you need your money back quickly, best to stick your loan part(s) up for sale on the SM and they'll likely go within a couple of hours.
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dp
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PBL011
Aug 10, 2015 9:10:55 GMT
Post by dp on Aug 10, 2015 9:10:55 GMT
Update from 4th August - "All of the legal documents for the refinance were signed on Monday (3rd August). Should be repaid this week."
I suspect this week or next at the latest, but as ever may slip slightly. If you need access to your money sooner place on the SM.
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PBL011
Aug 10, 2015 9:44:19 GMT
Post by chrisuk on Aug 10, 2015 9:44:19 GMT
Thanks for your replies. Much appreciated.
I'm not desperate for the cash and SS are still paying interest so I'll leave it for now. I was expecting to be repaid on the maturity date and so I was finding the '-12 days' slightly worrying. I'll know better in future!
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 10:37:55 GMT
Post by chrisuk on Aug 25, 2015 10:37:55 GMT
This loan is now 27 days overdue. Can anyone on this forum explain to me how and why this happens? And should I be concerned? I know I could sell it on the SM but I'm just curious.
Many thanks,
Chris
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 10:54:04 GMT
Post by ianj on Aug 25, 2015 10:54:04 GMT
This loan is now 27 days overdue. Can anyone on this forum explain to me how and why this happens? And should I be concerned? I know I could sell it on the SM but I'm just curious. Many thanks, Chris From last weeks Weekly Update.... PBL 11 & PBL 12 – Dragonfly (the finance company taking out our loan) are sending their asset manager out on Weds to confirm the tenant has now moved in. They confirm completion no later than end of the week.So, expected last Friday. And the Friday before that, and the Friday before the Friday before, and the Fri....... TTMAR
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 10:59:08 GMT
Post by chrisuk on Aug 25, 2015 10:59:08 GMT
This loan is now 27 days overdue. Can anyone on this forum explain to me how and why this happens? And should I be concerned? I know I could sell it on the SM but I'm just curious. Many thanks, Chris From last weeks Weekly Update.... PBL 11 & PBL 12 – Dragonfly (the finance company taking out our loan) are sending their asset manager out on Weds to confirm the tenant has now moved in. They confirm completion no later than end of the week.So, expected last Friday. And the Friday before that, and the Friday before the Friday before, and the Fri....... TTMAR So should I be concerned? Chris
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 11:35:33 GMT
Post by ilmoro on Aug 25, 2015 11:35:33 GMT
From last weeks Weekly Update.... PBL 11 & PBL 12 – Dragonfly (the finance company taking out our loan) are sending their asset manager out on Weds to confirm the tenant has now moved in. They confirm completion no later than end of the week.So, expected last Friday. And the Friday before that, and the Friday before the Friday before, and the Fri....... TTMAR So should I be concerned? Chris I dont think so, refinance timescales always seem more optomistic than the actuality, not surprising given involvement of banks & lawyers. Security position hasnt changed much, slight increase in LTV as an extra month interest has accrued. Cant remember if the borrower paid 4 months interest to cover delayed drawdown, if they didnt its 5 months interest owing which will put LTV at around 70% still a reasonable margin IMO
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 11:55:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 11:55:14 GMT
Some one is selling on SM for PBL11. £1000 still left to buy
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ianj
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 12:04:20 GMT
Post by ianj on Aug 25, 2015 12:04:20 GMT
From last weeks Weekly Update.... PBL 11 & PBL 12 – Dragonfly (the finance company taking out our loan) are sending their asset manager out on Weds to confirm the tenant has now moved in. They confirm completion no later than end of the week.So, expected last Friday. And the Friday before that, and the Friday before the Friday before, and the Fri....... TTMAR So should I be concerned? Chris Edit: In relation to the cause of the delay I think the honest answer is that, as far as the lending community is concerned, 'nobody knows'. Overruns on bridging loans appear to be very much the norm, problems or otherwise. It really comes down to whether you 'trust' SS to be upfront with bad news. Despite the sometimes infrequent/inaccurate communications, and quirky 'features' of their software, SS's record is exemplary, with only a single default, for which a full recovery of capital was achieved. Unless anyone has inside information , or a crystal ball, to enlighten us otherwise I'm not going to start worrying about this type of situation. In any case, as I like to avoid having idle cash in my account, my strategy is to slowly run-down my holdings in the last two months of a loan and reinvest in later offerings, if/when any is available.
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PBL011
Aug 25, 2015 14:45:59 GMT
Post by chrisuk on Aug 25, 2015 14:45:59 GMT
Thank you for the replies.
I'm one of those old-fashioned people that have always paid my debts on time, so I get a bit twitchy in situations like this.
I'll try and relax!!
Chris
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PBL011
Aug 26, 2015 20:51:27 GMT
Post by tony on Aug 26, 2015 20:51:27 GMT
For many weeks now SS have been promising imminent repayment of this loan which confirms my long standing belief that the updates (no longer weekly but infrequent) are not to be relied upon. I have a small credit balance which I thought was not worth withdrawing on its own so I intended to add it to the PBL11 repayment and withdraw them together. This balance has been stuck there for several weeks earning nowt. I have exceeded my planned limit of investment in SS so all credit will be withdrawn as it becomes available but because the majority of loans are either extended or overrun I guess I will have to start selling some on the SM ahead of the term date.
OK - refinancing can take a long time but does anyone suspect that the young, relatively inexperienced, people running SS are being taken for a ride by older and wiser borrowers?
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Post by trevor on Aug 26, 2015 21:29:56 GMT
The answer to your question Tony is no. If a loan is late being paid up they charge extra interest and when they can't they default the loan. They have a 100% record Ok so far. They often talk about consulting solicitors so it looks like the are willing to use some of their gross profit to pay for advice.
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Post by sqh on Aug 26, 2015 21:40:00 GMT
OK - refinancing can take a long time but does anyone suspect that the young, relatively inexperienced, people running SS are being taken for a ride by older and wiser borrowers? No, not at all. In fact, I think SS have selected borrowers who have a high net wealth and are less likely to default. Remember, that borrowers can be pursued for any defaults even if the property value is sold below the loan value. That is less likely for wealthy borrowers. Also, note that PBL013 was to the same borrower and paid back early. Just sell your parts on the SM.
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PBL011
Aug 29, 2015 6:49:38 GMT
Post by mack on Aug 29, 2015 6:49:38 GMT
Trevor, SQH I think you should let SS speak for themselves as they do read the forum.
If your bank or your plumber for that matter kept telling you something was going to happen this week for 8 weeks and the event did not occur you would be annoyed. I doubt you would defend their track record. SS seem to have a good business model, the smarts to have a large provision fund for reassurance, I don't think they need a fan club.
That is not to say their are legitimate reasons for delays but SS should get accurate information from their borrowers and report to investors accordingly. From certain completion a few weeks ago nothing has been reported since. The weekly report should actually be weekly - it is hardly a detailed investment overview but at least provides information to investors that matters are progressing, if reported accurately.
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