arg85
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Post by arg85 on Aug 12, 2015 11:56:56 GMT
Hi all I'm just trying to complete some market research for a project and I'm looking at the impact of interest rate rises on deposits. If anyone can help give their feedback it would be very much appreciated 1) Some platforms offer significantly higher interest rates for long-term lending (e.g. 6% for a 5 year term) but what are people's thoughts on a set interest rate that is linked to BBR to avoid any future impact of interest rate rises? 2) If there was a variable rate, would this stop you from investing for longer terms or not make a difference? If anyone has other comments in relation to the above then it would be great to hear them. Thank you in advance to anyone (and everyone) that replies. A
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Post by mrclondon on Aug 12, 2015 12:19:41 GMT
Whilst not answering your questions directly, here are a few things to bear in mind.
a) Your analysis needs to take into account the repayment profile of the loan - fully amortizing over the loan term vs part amortizing vs monthly interest only vs intrest on maturity. A 3 or 5 year fully amortizing loan, will on average have only about half the capital at risk, or put another way the montly capital repayments can be reinvested at current market rates.
b) The majority of p2p loans are 3 years or under, with a significant proprtion at 12 months. Most analysis of future interest rate policy by western governments suggests that whilst base rate rises are now likely in the next 18 months, the sum of the increases over the medium term is likely to be so small as to be largely irrelevant (e.g. in UK best guesses are for 0.25% increases in BBR in spring & autumn 2016).
c) p2p yields are largely interest payments in lieu of future capital losses. Don't be fooled by the headline rates discussed on this forum, a long term yield after defaults of 6% is probably the best that can be hoped for
d) prior to this tax year, (and the new rules are not yet published for the current year !!) capital losses can not be offset against interest for tax purposes. The headline yield comes down significantly once (say) 45% tax is deducted on all interest and then capital losses are deducted. On some platforms the actual net yield for 45% tax payers has been been below BBR (and in some cases negative). Some lenders use the tax advantages of SIPP/SASS to mitigate this but is only really practical for HNWI's
e) The p2p sector is still in its infancy and yields appear not to be correlated with anything in a meaningful way. On most platforms they are an indication of risk - the further away from say 5% they are the riskier the loan. The forthcoming inclusion of p2p loans in ISA's is likely to bring an avalanche of money into the sector driving down yields irrespective of increases to BBR.
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Post by SteveT on Aug 12, 2015 19:19:24 GMT
Hi all I'm just trying to complete some market research for a project and I'm looking at the impact of interest rate rises on deposits. If anyone can help give their feedback it would be very much appreciated 1) Some platforms offer significantly higher interest rates for long-term lending (e.g. 6% for a 5 year term) but what are people's thoughts on a set interest rate that is linked to BBR to avoid any future impact of interest rate rises? 2) If there was a variable rate, would this stop you from investing for longer terms or not make a difference? If anyone has other comments in relation to the above then it would be great to hear them. Thank you in advance to anyone (and everyone) that replies. A Take a look at Landbay's BBR-linked product, currently paying 3.5% and backed by residential buy-to-let mortgages
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Post by james on Aug 13, 2015 5:08:09 GMT
What compensation would the borrower want for having the interest rate risk transferred to them from the lenders? A lower interest rate is the natural compensation for them to seek.
Stevet are those residential BTL mortgages business or consumer BTL? Used to be only business but that changed earlier this year and the extra regulation could increase the risk to lenders from the consumer residential BTL group.
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