min
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Post by min on Nov 3, 2015 10:08:25 GMT
I'm totally baffled by it. In order to work out the interest you appear to have to look at all the accounts as interest appears in them separately. Understandable but would be nice to see - you received £X.xx in interest somewhere. Some interest added to QAA directly which I assume relates to cash directly invested in QAA BUT 5p interest went into cash account. Why? Presumably because you had swept funds from your cash account into the QAA. Interest is paid back to the source account where money was swept from. OK That makes sense. Thanks. Hadn't realised you could sweep money from cash to QAA.
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Post by ramblin rose on Nov 3, 2015 10:28:49 GMT
I'm totally baffled by it. In order to work out the interest you appear to have to look at all the accounts as interest appears in them separately. Understandable but would be nice to see - you received £X.xx in interest somewhere. Some interest added to QAA directly which I assume relates to cash directly invested in QAA BUT 5p interest went into cash account. Why? Presumably because you had swept funds from your cash account into the QAA. Interest is paid back to the source account where money was swept from. I'm sure I'm not alone in finding that because of this segmentation the hitherto just a bit annoying situation of having nanopence stuck in the CA forever unable to be added/swept into any other account has now got even more annoying. When the QAA started, I set my options to sweep from everywhere into it, thinking at the time that, at last, the nonopence would get added into a whole which I quickly realised wasn't the case. I can see very clearly why the cash from the various accounts is segmented (and it seems to work well that way), but now I have the situation where my nanopence in the CA is having nanonanonanopence added by way of interest, itself then queued up to have further, tinier additions made on them a month later, and I see no way out of it. This will go on till I die without ever getting to a point where anything can be done with it. Probably the right answer is to make it invisible to me (as undoubtedly happens in countless other banking type accounts which show me just the whole pennies), and then I won't find it annoying. If it's not going to be made invisible, then can we not now have some way of sweeping the entirety of an account's contents not just into QAA, but between other accounts, so that at last the cash account can be zeroed and the nanopence put somewhere they can be added up and used? A Support Desk option to do it as a one-off upon request would be sufficient - I'm certainly not suggesting you add further complexity to the public UI, which is already more complex than any system has a right to be. When I was a PM, this insane nanopence reporting is the sort of situation that my techies would have wanted to implement, and that I as a sensible user-type human being would have insisted that they didn't, frequently much to their annoyance and accusations that what I made them do wasn't 'correct'. Happened loads, but I was the boss. And I was right There have been UI experts employed at AC and I'm struggling to believe that they thought this was a good idea. (I speak as an ex-techie myself, but I grew out of that )
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 3, 2015 11:15:36 GMT
... If it's not going to be made invisible, then can we not now have some way of sweeping the entirety of an account's contents not just into QAA, but between other accounts, so that at last the cash account can be zeroed and the nanopence put somewhere they can be added up and used? A Support Desk option to do it as a one-off upon request would be sufficient ... Won't it come back again next time a loan makes payment?
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Post by SteveT on Nov 3, 2015 11:32:50 GMT
Perhaps Chris could add a "Donate Nanopence" button that would transfer any last remaining vestiges into a charitable fund. Within a couple of millennia we might collectively accumulate enough for a penny sweet.
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ramblin rose
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Post by ramblin rose on Nov 3, 2015 11:42:58 GMT
... If it's not going to be made invisible, then can we not now have some way of sweeping the entirety of an account's contents not just into QAA, but between other accounts, so that at last the cash account can be zeroed and the nanopence put somewhere they can be added up and used? A Support Desk option to do it as a one-off upon request would be sufficient ... Won't it come back again next time a loan makes payment? No, because my repayments go into my MLIA. I haven't had any money pass through the Cash Account for a very, very long time. It's dormant until such time as I might choose to add more into AC - as if - and even then I'd send it straight to the MLIA, which I understand is now something I can do.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 3, 2015 11:53:03 GMT
ramblin rose, have you tried taking 1p out of your MLIA (into Cash Account) and then moving 2p back again?
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Post by pepperpot on Nov 3, 2015 12:04:09 GMT
ramblin rose, have you tried taking 1p out of your MLIA (into Cash Account) and then moving 2p back again? I have the same nonopence in CA and just tried that to no avail, you get a 'You do not have sufficient funds' msg.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 3, 2015 12:14:12 GMT
Sorry, cant think of anything else.
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Post by niceguy37 on Nov 3, 2015 15:02:35 GMT
Perhaps Chris could add a "Donate Nanopence" button that would transfer any last remaining vestiges into a charitable fund. Within a couple of millennia we might collectively accumulate enough for a penny sweet. I've suggested in the past that if a transaction is going to leave a nano-pence balance, then the system sweep up the fraction and include it in whatever the transaction is. chris "liked" the post but does not seem to have had a chance to implement it yet. Another option is a once-a-month routine that sweeps any nano-pence cash from any lender's account into the lender's "main" (i.e. largest by value) account. Even if lender's lost their place in the QAA queue, it would only be on a nano-pence amount, so it would never amount to a whole penny. But it would tidy up the system, and keep not-a-few lenders happy.
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Post by sl75 on Nov 9, 2015 10:01:00 GMT
ramblin rose, have you tried taking 1p out of your MLIA (into Cash Account) and then moving 2p back again? The best you can do until they fix the UI (to allow the entire balance of the cash account to be swept into another account) is to wait until the MLIA has a balance something like £x.xx9xxx or £x.xx8xxx, then withdraw an amount in excess of the entire balance of the MLIA into the cash account, combining the totals, at which point you can cancel the pending withdrawal from the MLIA and redeposit the funds. Unfortunately, since the introduction of the QAA, that process now results in ALL your MLIA funds going to the back of the queue, so until or unless they fix the deal flow so that swept funds can start earning QAA interest in a reasonable amount of time, you're probably better off leaving the odd balance in the cash account. It may also be possible to put a precisely calculated balance into the cash account, allowing it to be swept into the QAA in due course, and remove it after a precisely determined amount of time so that the next QAA interest payment into the cash account puts the balance to a whole number of pence.
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Post by chris on Jan 4, 2016 10:01:46 GMT
December interest has just been paid. QAA cap has been raised to £5m, with £4.2m currently invested.
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