Investboy
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Post by Investboy on Nov 20, 2015 22:42:19 GMT
I'm bit frustrated... I'm on couple of P2P sites and none is so complicated as AC. I have no idea when to invest and in what.
Recently I've missed 2 loans after very long wait.
I've tried to invest in the 3 Accounts but it is impossible to get there...
All other sites notify me via email when loan becomes available, date, time ect so I know what will be available. AC - nothing.
I have so called "shrapnel" left in few loans and when I see 1E-19 it just boggles my mind. No other site has that.
Can someone give me short instruction how do I recognize a loan is going to accept investments?
Are loans oversubscribed and you get only piece of intended investment (like on SS with prefunding)?
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 20, 2015 23:39:14 GMT
Set a target for each of the loans you are interested in. The sum of all these can be much higher than the total you intend to deposit. Put in a little money and you will find that you will buy some parts. If you click on upcoming loans you will see those loans that are about to draw (sometime in the next 2 months or so). Some might be highlighted as underwriting called. These loans are expected to draw in the next week. Set a target put some money in and you will get a share.
AC have had virtually no new loans for many months. They say some are coming very soon, but almost all of AC's problems stem from the lack of new loans.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 21, 2015 7:22:06 GMT
I'm bit frustrated... I'm on couple of P2P sites and none is so complicated as AC. I have no idea when to invest and in what. Recently I've missed 2 loans after very long wait. I've tried to invest in the 3 Accounts but it is impossible to get there... All other sites notify me via email when loan becomes available, date, time ect so I know what will be available. AC - nothing. I have so called "shrapnel" left in few loans and when I see 1E-19 it just boggles my mind. No other site has that. Can someone give me short instruction how do I recognize a loan is going to accept investments? Are loans oversubscribed and you get only piece of intended investment (like on SS with prefunding)? It looks complicated but it's actually very simple on AC, it's just that you don't know when and what you're going to pick up until you've got it. Set a buying target on all the loans you fancy buying into, stick some cash in your MLIA account and then leave it a few days / weeks / months as the shrapnel accumulates into sensible holdings. You can set (say) 50 targets of £50 but only need stick (say) £500 into your account. It will stop buying a loan when your target is reached, and stop buying altogether when your cash is used up. Then adjust targets and add more cash progressively as you go along. New loans are listed on the Upcoming loans page and you set your buying targets there in the same way. You will only receive (some or all of) your allocation if you have free cash available at the time a loan launches so, if you have a £250 target set on several Upcoming loans, try to keep at least £250 free cash balance in your MLIA ready for when the next one draws down. The "Underwriting Called" flag should appear a couple of days before a loan activates, which someone usually spots and mentions in the "Upcoming Loans / Drawdowns" thread on this board. You can also tick the box to sweep all of your uninvested MLIA cash into the lengthy queue for the QAA account, where it will earn no extra interest. Very occasionally some of your money might actually make it into the QAA itself and earn a few extra nanopence for a week or so, until the next new loan launches and it gets sucked out again
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Investboy
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Post by Investboy on Nov 21, 2015 20:17:44 GMT
Thanks. I've added instructions to invest on the interesting loans, now I just need to wait - pretty hands off approach. I have 1.2p invested in QAA It should be renamed LQA - Long Queue Account. To summarise: I can add investment instruction for more than my holding account - something like pre-funding on SS. But there is no negative balance, so if I ran out of money I'll invest only what is on my account. Opposite to SS when I can have negative balance for 48h. I will not get whole amount. Is there a percentage or an estimated pool of money that is ready to invest in each loan? On SS I think it is estimated around 2M.
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Post by bigfoot12 on Nov 21, 2015 20:47:02 GMT
We haven't been given any numbers but in the past we have been told that reasonably large sums move around.
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Post by SteveT on Nov 21, 2015 21:47:26 GMT
Thanks. I've added instructions to invest on the interesting loans, now I just need to wait - pretty hands off approach. I have 1.2p invested in QAA It should be renamed LQA - Long Queue Account. To summarise: I can add investment instruction for more than my holding account - something like pre-funding on SS. But there is no negative balance, so if I ran out of money I'll invest only what is on my account. Opposite to SS when I can have negative balance for 48h. I will not get whole amount. Is there a percentage or an estimated pool of money that is ready to invest in each loan? On SS I think it is estimated around 2M. I often do get my whole target, but then I don't ask for as much as some do. The AC allocation process is different to SS; everyone gets the same allocated value (other than those that asked for less), regardless of how much they requested. So on AC there is no point in trying to game the system. Just ask for what you'd like and, other than on small and popular loans, you may well get it (if you've got the available cash on hand!)
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Post by lynnanthony on Nov 22, 2015 2:14:01 GMT
Investboy, I don't want to teach you to suck eggs and perhaps you found it obvious, but do make sure you have transferred money from your Cash Account to your Manual Loan Investment Account. Otherwise you'll get nowt.
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Post by Neha Aggarwal on Nov 23, 2015 12:46:56 GMT
Do not need to be frustrated, you just have to go to these portals, see the % of returns offers, read the reviews of that particular peer to peer lenders and just go ahead. Peer to peer marketplace brings investors and individual borrowers together. It acts as an online marketplace where the investors can fund the borrowers with high return on investments. It offers easy, transparent and quick credit process.
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Post by sqh on Nov 23, 2015 22:29:53 GMT
There is currently a big chunk of loan 36 available. This is very rare, and I can't see a problem with the loan. It is GBBA eligible so may not be around long.
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Post by jonah on Nov 23, 2015 22:40:03 GMT
There is currently a big chunk of loan 36 available. This is very rare, and I can't see a problem with the loan. It is GBBA eligible so may not be around long. Puzzlingly I put up a small chunk this evening. Despite the 70k+ which was already on offer, my chunk sold quickly. I suspect GBBA may be the cause as a lot of <1p sales, but hey ho.
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Post by mikes1531 on Nov 23, 2015 22:56:20 GMT
There is currently a big chunk of loan 36 available. This is very rare, and I can't see a problem with the loan. It is GBBA eligible so may not be around long. Puzzlingly I put up a small chunk this evening. Despite the 70k+ which was already on offer, my chunk sold quickly. I suspect GBBA may be the cause as a lot of <1p sales, but hey ho. This struck me as odd as well. There's been no update for that loan today, so it's hard to say what might have triggered this. The fact that jonah's parts sold so quickly suggests the parts for sale are from a small number of accounts -- perhaps even just one. I wonder whether an underwriter or other deep-pocketed investor might have been holding onto a big chunk of this loan but now has an investment opportunity that they wish to take advantage of. I suppose a large investor could have decided to pull out because of the difficulty AC are having obtaining management accounts -- as reported in an update on Friday. Let's all hope that the payment due tomorrow is made on time, as I'd hate to think someone knows it won't be and has tipped off others to that inside information.
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Post by Investboy on Dec 2, 2015 13:42:32 GMT
I'm beginning to like AC more and more... 40 decimal points are not irritating me as much as originally. Now I see why they are implemented as you can have <1p invested in a loan then the daily interest will be <0.0001. It looks it solved the problem of "FFF fast-fingers-first". There are a buy/sell instructions (aka pre-funding) for upcoming loans and for existing loans. I just set up instruction to buy up to my loan limit and it slowly accumulates shrapnel and improves my diversification. Don't have to monitor the site constantly, jsut once a day to see if my account needs top up of cash. Some platforms still try to reinvent the wheel to do similar thing on PM, nobody else does it on SM. Still don't understand the premium/discount as every loan that I check that has parts for sale says: "0.0% discount. Figures shown already include discount offered."It looks like the loan flow is also improving. When I joined there was nothing new, so I bought some of the "dodgy" loans nobody wants Good job chris and AC
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Post by sl75 on Dec 2, 2015 14:39:45 GMT
40 decimal points are not irritating me as much as originally. Now I see why they are implemented as you can have <1p invested in a loan then the daily interest will be <0.0001. If you look closely, you'll see that only the first 20 decimals are actually used. Still don't understand the premium/discount as every loan that I check that has parts for sale says: "0.0% discount. Figures shown already include discount offered."When a discount is offered, it is for a minimum of 1.0%, and the relevant units will be purchased first. You're just not looking at the right time(s). Maybe when deal flow increases further, some loans will no longer seem attractive with a 1.0% discount, and potential buyers will wait until a larger discount is offered...
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Post by Ton ⓉⓞⓃ on Dec 2, 2015 22:09:36 GMT
Investboy I've set up buy orders looking for a 1.5% discount etc, and from time to time they are fulfilled sometimes by a much larger discount than I was looking for. But at the moment we can only have one buy or one sell at a time for each loan.
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Post by Investboy on Dec 3, 2015 10:57:24 GMT
I have all my Invest instructions at par. But if I understand it correctly if someone sells with discount I still will have it applied and not pay par?
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