twoheads
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Post by twoheads on Feb 13, 2017 16:34:34 GMT
I was once involved in a minor way with data presentation and how the human mind retains the same data that is presented in different ways. Pie charts look pretty but ask people to redraw them a week later and some don't do too well. It seems to be better to use square areas or histograms with firm colours. As an exercise, try to memorise the pie charts and then try to memorise these - see which is most easily recalled a week later. You can present these square boxes in different ways, side by side, superimposed, etc. There is a whole science on data presentation and what people best remember. The marketing campaign to launch the phone company ORANGE years ago was brilliant. A single word but inextricably linked to bright memorable colour. Unlike the Orange logo you quote, I'm not sure that memorability is the goal in our case. I would say clarity of presented information is the goal.
Squares have a problem (as I see it) when judging the relative sizes, whether side by side or nested in one another. For example, it is not obvious in the two examples below that the red square (71x71px) is half the size (area) of the blue square (100x100px).
 
If you want to move away from pie charts then I would prefer your histogram suggestion with bars of equal width so that the area is proportional to the height. This makes it much easier to judge relative sizes.
Pie charts, of course, also allow relative sizes to be easily judged - even if less memorable, I think they are clearer than squares.
Of course, this is a largely subjective area of discussion and this is simply my own opinion.
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Post by mikes1531 on Feb 15, 2017 18:12:35 GMT
I'd be amused to know how many people "read it" the way I did and glitched for a second, and how many people read it the correct way  . : I didn't notice anyone responding to this request, but I'll belatedly say that I had the same reaction that you did. 
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Post by oldgrumpy on Feb 17, 2017 21:07:03 GMT
Update 17.2.17
Marketing of the property continues. The borrower is also racing to refinance to make good his offer to us.
Great! That should speed things up a bit.
Hold on. Isn't the borrower already bankrupt?
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Post by cooling_dude on Feb 17, 2017 21:26:35 GMT
Update 17.2.17 Marketing of the property continues. The borrower is also racing to refinance to make good his offer to us. Great! That should speed things up a bit.Hold on. Isn't the borrower already bankrupt? No... Well... sort of, but not quite  The borrowers are 2 active companies, it is a key individual that went bankrupt. That individual was the director at both companies but has since resigned. No doubt she is still largely involved
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Post by WestonKevTMP on Feb 17, 2017 21:33:18 GMT
..... The borrower is also racing to refinance to make good his offer to us. Which fits nicely with the previous update " The Borrower is finding refinancing rather challenging ". Alongside the planning permission issues, unfulfilled promises to local planning departments, artists not getting paid, bankrupts owning the company.... and with the loan now over 150 days in arrears and highly unlikely that any overdue interest payments have ever been made (happy to have this confirmed otherwise?) - this meets pretty strongly my definition of default!
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Feb 17, 2017 21:38:00 GMT
..... The borrower is also racing to refinance to make good his offer to us. this meets pretty strongly my definition of default! Don't be silly It hasn't gone past 180 days.... And it's not like SS have been charging default interest... oh wait
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Post by Come_on_Grandad on Feb 18, 2017 8:22:18 GMT
... The borrower is also racing to refinance to make good his offer to us. ... I take this as an indication that the borrower is eyeing up opportunities at the Cheltenham Festival. Perhaps Wounded Warrior at 66 to 1 in the Gold Cup?
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Post by r00lish67 on Feb 18, 2017 15:35:12 GMT
I hope for their sake the nag comes in, sounds like their gig in January was freezing cold (sorry can't post link), perhaps they haven't paid the gas bill either?
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Post by hobbitcz on Feb 23, 2017 13:49:26 GMT
Btw I found it quite interesting, that set of properties originally marketed for 2.2m were issued loans in total of 3.7m from SS. <link removed as it identifies a property on which a borrower's loan is secured>
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cooling_dude
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Post by cooling_dude on Feb 23, 2017 13:56:33 GMT
Btw I found it quite interesting, that set of properties originally marketed for 2.2m were issued loans in total of 3.7m from SS. XXXXXXX Your link doesn't work (and is probably against the rules anyway  ) The article that you are trying to link to is from 2011, and presumably, there has been an uplift in value since then (via inflation & development); but yes, the valuation is probably a tad optimistic, and this type of property won't sell overnight even at a cut price.
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Post by star dust on Feb 23, 2017 13:59:47 GMT
Btw I found it quite interesting, that set of properties originally marketed for 2.2m were issued loans in total of 3.7m from SS. XXXXXXX Your link doesn't work (and is probably against the rules anyway ) The article that you are trying to link to is from 2011, and presumably, there has been an uplift in value since then (via inflation & development); but yes, the valuation is probably a tad optimistic, and this type of property won't sell overnight even at a cut price. The link worked for me, so I've redacted it
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Post by hobbitcz on Feb 23, 2017 14:13:40 GMT
Sorry was unaware that you cannot identify the property, which everyone can easily find out by loan numbers with all the details on the platform (without any necessity to invest in them so really what is the point?). Yes, it was article from 2011 which stated that the whole set of properties is marketed for 2.25m and quoted that it is indeed very high price tag and would be difficult to find buyer for that price. Property prices increased in average by 25% in Gloucs area between 2011 to 2016. And btw 3.7m is the loan not the new valuation. I really believe that valuation wasn't done properly and it most probably didn't take into account that in case of default ALL properties will go on market AT ONCE which definitely has to negatively impact the value recoverable. One by one selling individually in different years they might have the assumed value, but not sold at once. Just my view.
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Post by guff on Mar 3, 2017 20:40:01 GMT
Sometime local news outlets are providing more timely news... " Musical Players are being warned about performing at a Str**d venue after several others have reported not being paid.
The warning comes after both the hubby and wife who took on the C***** project, have both now been subject to b*nkr*ptcy orders" S***** N*** & J****** threw up an interesting update on Wednesday: MOD COMMENT: Both of the quotes in this post have been reported and they've been modified to avoid any searches coming back to the forum at a future date. Please don't re-edit this post.
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Post by WestonKevTMP on Mar 4, 2017 8:42:28 GMT
I think the S***** N*** & J****** is trying to run them out of town...
At least we know how they are going to refinance, through a crowd funding campaign from 1,000 partners to "donate" £5,000 each. Good luck with that.
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Post by toffeeboy on Mar 7, 2017 16:14:29 GMT
I think the S***** N*** & J****** is trying to run them out of town... At least we know how they are going to refinance, through a crowd funding campaign from 1,000 partners to "donate" £5,000 each. Good luck with that. Not going to work very well as I get an error when I click on the crowdfunding link on their website.
Just to prove my sanity I must add that I have no intention of funding them with 5p let alone £5,000
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