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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:02:23 GMT
Once again your fantasy is going too far. I have years of experience in automation coding, which does not mean FASTEST BID coding.... Up to now I did not have the need to code a fast bot. For scientific applications on top of the (slowish) data collection you write lots of other layers, so certainly my code is not (and never meant to be) optimised for speed. I quickly derived from my previous code a prototype bot (written in less than 10 minutes in a work break and launched from a mobile connection....) just to see how it behaves and is not fast enough. Will do the necessary work tonight from a stable set-up and then will see the results. I am confident it will buy parts for me... That is very interesting. In a previous post you can of launched a challenge to other bot users. I do not have one and have no idea how to code one. In the interest of research would you be willing to share your code? We can then agree on a time and launch them and see what happens. The variable would be the different internet services we have. If you have a real interest in research you can easily learn how to write an automated system. Both perl (which I use) and python have excellent automation libraries and you can honestly learn the basics in a month or so, if you have some passion. Good luck.
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Post by highlandtiger on Jan 4, 2016 15:03:53 GMT
"Boo Hoo I can't buy what I want so I'm going to stomp off home and create a bot that'll stop everyone else getting what they want."
Very mature, I must say.
As bots are detrimental to SS in that they will ultimately deter people from investing with them, I hope that SS are taking note of who is boasting about the size of their bots on this thread and close down their SS accounts if they can be proved to be using a bot.
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Post by jonno on Jan 4, 2016 15:06:39 GMT
I'm trying to rememeber what savingstream said their stance was on bots.... would be such a shame if they identify/ban you.... but it'd give you something else to complain about anyway Hey pom; When say you're trying to REMEMEBER, is that when you're trying to re-remember something that you'd remembered to forget? 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:07:26 GMT
A lower-ping connection will help more than rockets... Will see tonight. I did a quick ping test on the internet and it gave me these figures: ping - 34ms; jitter - 5ms. How does this rate? If you pinged savingstream, that is very good. On this (rubbish) mobile connection I am around 190ms and also on a low data rate. In any case, I think that if you are so interested in automation coding for SS, it would be better to open a new thread. I am sure there might be a lot of contributions...
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Post by ablender on Jan 4, 2016 15:07:39 GMT
That is very interesting. In a previous post you can of launched a challenge to other bot users. I do not have one and have no idea how to code one. In the interest of research would you be willing to share your code? We can then agree on a time and launch them and see what happens. The variable would be the different internet services we have. If you have a real interest in research you can easily learn how to write an automated system. Both perl (which I use) and python have excellent automation libraries and you can honestly learn the basics in a month or so, if you have some passion. Good luck. Any links to get me started?
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Post by ablender on Jan 4, 2016 15:09:51 GMT
I did a quick ping test on the internet and it gave me these figures: ping - 34ms; jitter - 5ms. How does this rate? If you pinged savingstream, that is very good. On this (rubbish) mobile connection I am around 190ms and also on a low data rate. In any case, I think that if you are so interested in automation coding for SS, it would be better to open a new thread. I am sure there might be a lot of contributions... No I googled for one of those online tests. (http://www.pingtest.net). It chooses a server automatically. I have no idea how to ping a particular site. This is of particular interest to me as I am a long distance from the local telephone exchange (cannot remember what it is called) and my internet is relatively slow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:15:18 GMT
"Boo Hoo I can't buy what I want so I'm going to stomp off home and create a bot that'll stop everyone else getting what they want." Very mature, I must say. As bots are detrimental to SS in that they will ultimately deter people from investing with them, I hope that SS are taking note of who is boasting about the size of their bots on this thread and close down their SS accounts if they can be proved to be using a bot. a) In which part of the SS T&C is automated bidding mentioned? I cannot find it. b) Why do you think automated bidding is in any way cared by SS? (there is plenty on the SS SM and none is stopped or even traced I think). c) in which way would automated bidding deter people from investing? The goal for SS is to find investment cash and this is done in the primary market (very successfully as we see in Loan 74). The main goal for the secondary market is liquidity and you can say everything against bots, but certainly they can only help reaching liquidity faster! I have invested in SS for almost a year without any need to use automation, but given the current situation I find only fair to deploy the same tools others are using.... And I am openly saying it and not hiding as others do while using the bots. If this is prohibited for everyone of course I will comply!
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Post by ilmoro on Jan 4, 2016 15:21:07 GMT
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Post by highlandtiger on Jan 4, 2016 15:22:10 GMT
c) in which way would automated bidding deter people from investing? The goal for SS is to find investment cash and this is done in the primary market (very successfully as we see in Loan 74).
The main goal for the secondary market is liquidity and you can say everything against bots, but certainly they can only help reaching liquidity faster!
I would have thought it was blindingly obvious why bots would deter people from investing. Considering that 99.999999% of the population wouldn't have a clue about how to create a bot, then that same 99.99999% would not be happy if they were unable to invest because of people like you.
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Post by SteveT on Jan 4, 2016 15:24:26 GMT
a) In which part of the SS T&C is automated bidding mentioned? I cannot find it. b) Why do you think automated bidding is in any way cared by SS? (there is plenty on the SS SM and none is stopped or even traced I think). c) in which way would automated bidding deter people from investing? The goal for SS is to find investment cash and this is done in the primary market (very successfully as we see in Loan 74). The main goal for the secondary market is liquidity and you can say everything against bots, but certainly they can only help reaching liquidity faster! I have invested in SS for almost a year without any need to use automation, but given the current situation I find only fair to deploy the same tools others are using.... And I am openly saying it and not hiding as others do while using the bots. If this is prohibited for everyone of course I will comply! I will look forward to the day that savingstream decide to suspend your account (and those of any other bot users) under the general provisions of clause 14.2.16d 14.2.16) you use the Saving Stream platform in any of the following ways: a) in any way that causes, or is likely to cause, the platform or access to it to be interrupted or damaged in any way; b) for fraudulent purposes, or in connection with a criminal offence; c) to send, use or reuse any material that is illegal, offensive, abusive, indecent, defamatory, obscene or menacing; or in breach of copyright, trademark, confidence, privacy or any other right; or is otherwise injurious to third parties; or objectionable; or which consists of or contains software viruses, political campaigning, commercial solicitation, chain letters, mass mailings or any “spam”; d) to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety; ore) there is no activity in your Saving Stream lender account within a 12 month period.
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Post by highlandtiger on Jan 4, 2016 15:29:23 GMT
I think part a is applicable as well. Seeing as bots do not allow me access to investments
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Post by ablender on Jan 4, 2016 15:30:16 GMT
I found how to ping SS. The results are ttl=56 time=30.096 ms.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 15:34:28 GMT
a) In which part of the SS T&C is automated bidding mentioned? I cannot find it. b) Why do you think automated bidding is in any way cared by SS? (there is plenty on the SS SM and none is stopped or even traced I think). c) in which way would automated bidding deter people from investing? The goal for SS is to find investment cash and this is done in the primary market (very successfully as we see in Loan 74). The main goal for the secondary market is liquidity and you can say everything against bots, but certainly they can only help reaching liquidity faster! I have invested in SS for almost a year without any need to use automation, but given the current situation I find only fair to deploy the same tools others are using.... And I am openly saying it and not hiding as others do while using the bots. If this is prohibited for everyone of course I will comply! I will look forward to the day that savingstream decide to suspend your account (and those of any other bot users) under the general provisions of clause 14.2.16d 14.2.16) you use the Saving Stream platform in any of the following ways: a) in any way that causes, or is likely to cause, the platform or access to it to be interrupted or damaged in any way; b) for fraudulent purposes, or in connection with a criminal offence; c) to send, use or reuse any material that is illegal, offensive, abusive, indecent, defamatory, obscene or menacing; or in breach of copyright, trademark, confidence, privacy or any other right; or is otherwise injurious to third parties; or objectionable; or which consists of or contains software viruses, political campaigning, commercial solicitation, chain letters, mass mailings or any “spam”; d) to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety; ore) there is no activity in your Saving Stream lender account within a 12 month period. That clause has nothing to do with bots. It is a general clause found in almost all service provider contracts to defend against intentional break-ins, or other problematic situations in which you (user) can cause trouble/loss of service or damage to the whole network.
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Post by adrianc on Jan 4, 2016 15:41:31 GMT
May I respectfully point you to...
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Post by SteveT on Jan 4, 2016 15:44:45 GMT
That clause has nothing to do with bots. It is a general clause found in almost all service provider contracts to defend against intentional break-ins, or other problematic situations in which you (user) can cause trouble/loss of service or damage to the whole network. As with all general contractual clauses relating to nuisance and inconvenience, it is open to wide interpretation and application. The pertinent point is that you have agreed to it, and Saving Stream will be entirely within their rights to apply it if your actions cause nuisance and inconvenience to their other customers.
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